# 2023 Tour of Sufferlandria (ToS) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Nine Hammers Tavern - General Chat\ **Created:** [October 27, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030 "2022-10-27T18:37:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sbrault](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/sbrault/32/3438_2.png) [@sbrault](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/sbrault)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/1 "2022-10-27T18:37:20Z")
IS there a tentative date for this? ---
**Author:** ![jmckenzieKOS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jmckenziekos/32/2135_2.png) [@jmckenzieKOS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/jmckenzieKOS)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 6:43pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/2 "2022-10-27T18:43:00Z")
No announcements yet but expect something different this year. Like a race on RGT to make things ‘interesting’. ---
**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/3 "2022-10-27T19:36:44Z")
> [@jmckenzieKOS](#): > > but expect something different this year. Like a race on RGT to make things ‘interesting’. A ToS in RGT? oooooh…I don’t know about that one. I get a little…competitive. 😬 😂 Of course, that raises the interesting possibility of magic roads done on the actual Sufferfest routes, synced w the videos…a virtual Sufferlandria? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![jmckenzieKOS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jmckenziekos/32/2135_2.png) [@jmckenzieKOS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/jmckenzieKOS)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 8:21pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/4 "2022-10-27T20:21:54Z")
That would be quite interesting. Maybe somewhere new… ---
**Author:** ![Critmark](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/critmark/32/11594_2.png) [@Critmark](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Critmark)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2022, 11:42pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/5 "2022-10-27T23:42:43Z")
> [@CPT\_A](#): > > I don’t know about that one. I get a little…competitive Competitive … nah. Hard to believe anyone on here would be competitive. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![jmckenzieKOS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jmckenziekos/32/2135_2.png) [@jmckenzieKOS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/jmckenzieKOS)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 12:19am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/6 "2022-10-28T00:19:53Z")
Never. Oooh! There’s the City Limit sign (sets for and does a sprint to the sign dropping all the Couchlandrians). ---
**Author:** ![leebo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f0a364/32.png) [@leebo](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/leebo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 6:00am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/7 "2022-10-28T06:00:24Z")
Dude, why are you riding with Couchlandrians? ---
**Author:** ![Dan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/dan/32/9396_2.png) [@Dan](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Dan)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2022, 6:04pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/8 "2022-10-28T18:04:14Z")
> [@CPT\_A](#): > > A ToS in RGT I seriously hope not. RGT is so finicky to get going currently for me. If it was as easy as Zwift to plug and play, maybe a virtual TOS would be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/marty/32/9068_2.png) [@Marty](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Marty)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2022, 7:26am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/9 "2022-10-29T07:26:47Z")
> [@sbrault](#): > > IS there a tentative date for this? expect to hear an anouncement around January(maybe even a bit sooner to allow for fund raising) with ToS occuring around mid Feb. ---
**Author:** ![Fantom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ad7895/32.png) [@Fantom](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Fantom)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 7:45am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/10 "2022-10-31T07:45:58Z")
Ideas for 2023 TOS include Women’s Tour (There is sufficient footage of Women’s racing now), or a week of Pro-Rides (which sounds horrific fun). ---
**Author:** ![IsiSchneider\_KoS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/isischneider_kos/32/23131_2.png) [@IsiSchneider\_KoS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/IsiSchneider_KoS)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 9:18am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/11 "2022-10-31T09:18:50Z")
please let it still be the Tour of SUFFERLANDRIA, not the tour of pro rides, or the tour of a week with or whatever else 🙏 ---
**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 10:57am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/12 "2022-10-31T10:57:39Z")
Week of pro rides would need to be something else entirely… ---
**Author:** ![tbronder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/tbronder/32/1972_2.png) [@tbronder](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/tbronder)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/13 "2022-10-31T13:13:22Z")
I can only assume the minions would add a “150km transfer before the stage start but the bus broke down, start riding” twist to the ToS. ---
**Author:** ![DameCristy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/damecristy/32/3519_2.png) [@DameCristy](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/DameCristy)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/14 "2022-10-31T14:09:51Z")
> [@IsiSchneider\_KoS](#): > > please let it still be the Tour of SUFFERLANDRIA, not the tour of pro rides, or the tour of a week with or whatever else 🙏 Hear, hear! ---
**Author:** ![robhx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/65b543/32.png) [@robhx](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/robhx)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/15 "2022-10-31T17:22:19Z")
Please dont use abbreviations , so newcomers can understand . Thanks . 😇 ---
**Author:** ![sbrault](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/sbrault/32/3438_2.png) [@sbrault](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/sbrault)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 9:51am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/16 "2022-11-01T09:51:15Z")
OK, OKAY for newcomers ---
**Author:** ![robhx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/65b543/32.png) [@robhx](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/robhx)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/17 "2022-11-01T16:32:40Z")
Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![colin.ledlie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/colin.ledlie/32/8481_2.png) [@colin.ledlie](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/colin.ledlie)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/18 "2022-11-01T19:13:53Z")
I think there is room for both a Tour of Suf and also a Tour of RGT at another date later in the year (maybe November). I could really do with a Tour of RGT to show me round the App and provide some rides that are well populated with other riders. ---
**Author:** ![DarrenWCKam](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/darrenwckam/32/23861_2.png) [@DarrenWCKam](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/DarrenWCKam)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 2:34am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/19 "2022-11-02T02:34:51Z")
I am actually looking forward to exploring my first ToS next year. Just wondering when it would begin. ---
**Author:** ![jmckenzieKOS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jmckenziekos/32/2135_2.png) [@jmckenzieKOS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/jmckenzieKOS)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2022, 11:24pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030/20 "2022-11-02T23:24:36Z")
The ToS, by tradition, is the first week in February. However, this is subject to change due to conditions outside of GvAs control. Expect a week of brutal activity though. A review of previous ToS is advised (you can even ride a few if you desire, actually it is encouraged). [Next page](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/2023-tour-of-sufferlandria-tos/20030.md?page=2)