# 4DP FTP decreased compared to Half Monty

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**Created:** [November 8, 2024, 7:58pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/4dp-ftp-decreased-compared-to-half-monty/26774 "2024-11-08T19:58:22Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 9, 2024, 2:00pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/4dp-ftp-decreased-compared-to-half-monty/26774/5 "2024-11-09T14:00:53Z")

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There are a number of folks, who tend to do get higher FTP results from HM than from FF. It has been documented before.

> [@4DP vs Half Monty results](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/4dp-vs-half-monty-results/828/3):
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> There are rider types that do “better” on Half Monty compared to Full Frontal. The main one being Attackers, secondarily Pursuiter. We have found that many people for those rider types get artificially high FTP and MAP values from Half Monty, while those who are more diesel type (TT’ers / Climbers) might see the opposite. Ramps will always give artificially high Sustained power values (FTP / MAP) for people who are “anaerobically inclined”- attackers and pursuiters. We have found that our he…

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