# Apple TV app **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests\ **Created:** [July 13, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015 "2020-07-13T13:06:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![JGreengrass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jgreengrass/32/2628_2.png) [@JGreengrass](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/JGreengrass)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/62 "2021-10-14T20:40:47Z")
It already works on iPhone, IPad, intel and M1 macOS, assuming you already have one of those devices if you already have AppleTV? If I want to play my workouts on as big screen I use a lightning-HDMI adapter. Only cost £49 and is immune to WiFi interference. ---
**Author:** ![Erik-KOS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/erik-kos/32/5320_2.png) [@Erik-KOS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Erik-KOS)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/63 "2021-10-14T21:04:37Z")
I use the same set up, works great. Not sure what the benefit of apply TV is. ---
**Author:** ![Kenco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4bbf92/32.png) [@Kenco](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Kenco)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 9:43am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/64 "2021-10-15T09:43:25Z")
It should of read. : no go for me unless there is some APPLE TV interface. My set up is in my garage: A TV that is connected via Apple TV, via which I can connect to other training systems (Swift etc). I don’t own a Mac or iPad. I do own an iPhone but it wouldn’t provide the experience I would like. So, I’m still holding out for Apple TV connection. And I’m sure I’m not the only person in this situation. Regards, Kenco ---
**Author:** ![PedalMonkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/pedalmonkey/32/2307_2.png) [@PedalMonkey](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/PedalMonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 10:03am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/65 "2021-10-15T10:03:45Z")
I’ve got a AppleTV that I use for Zwift, I screen mirror from my phone to the Apple TV, not ideal, but it works ---
**Author:** ![Kenco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4bbf92/32.png) [@Kenco](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Kenco)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 11:20am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/66 "2021-10-15T11:20:46Z")
Exactly - not ideal (screen mirroring) However, there is a solution - an Apple TV app That is what I would like before I start paying a monthly subscription. ---
**Author:** ![PedalMonkey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/pedalmonkey/32/2307_2.png) [@PedalMonkey](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/PedalMonkey)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 12:23pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/67 "2021-10-15T12:23:47Z")
Well as Apple TV is so important to you, I would be looking at platforms do Support Apple TV (Zwift & RGT) as according to DC Rainmaker there are no plans ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/2X/c/c402eab65fdb05d969825d2db42e0a5f038a95a0.png) And with all the demands in this forum for new functionality, I’d be surprised if they change their mind in the near future ---
**Author:** ![JSampson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jsampson/32/3148_2.png) [@JSampson](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/JSampson)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 2:47pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/68 "2021-10-15T14:47:20Z")
@Kenco An iPhone works great when using a lightning to HDMI connector. I have been using that method over the past year. ---
**Author:** ![Erik-KOS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/erik-kos/32/5320_2.png) [@Erik-KOS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Erik-KOS)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/69 "2021-10-15T15:03:32Z")
What does appleTV do that a hdmi/lightning cable does not? ---
**Author:** ![brumohr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/brumohr/32/11098_2.png) [@brumohr](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/brumohr)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 4:22pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/70 "2021-10-15T16:22:31Z")
AppleTV is a convenience. Small box, excellent execution for supported apps, and reliable ease of use. I currently use a tower computer with gaming GPU to run zwift, systm, rouvy, etc. Systm is the only app not available for the services I use. I use appleTV for my home entertainment and would love to simplify my hardware to just using the appleTV. Simple as that. SYSTM release took quite some time (I participated in beta). It hit the market (IMO) with a long way to go – calendar for example is an improvement over The Suff app but nowhere near where it needs to be. With wahoo resources I expect more from SYSTM with appletv support included, particularly given how pricey the subscription is. ---
**Author:** ![titanicus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/titanicus/32/5265_2.png) [@titanicus](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/titanicus)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2021, 4:31pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/71 "2021-10-15T16:31:04Z")
> [@brumohr](#): > > particularly given how pricey the subscription is My quick search suggested SYSTM is about the same cost as Zwift and a little cheaper than Rouvy (for a one year payment). Given the range of content, I don’t believe it is “pricey”, stand-alone or compared to similar. ---
**Author:** ![brumohr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/brumohr/32/11098_2.png) [@brumohr](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/brumohr)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/72 "2021-10-16T15:29:45Z")
I stand corrected. I was confusing Rouvy sub price ($144 per annum) with SYSTM. Although Rouvy does support appleTV. I am first and foremost a Sufferlandrian if I can still use that term. However, I would like to see a faster pace of feature development particularly now that they have wahoo behind them financially. ---
**Author:** ![ironclm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/ironclm/32/4251_2.png) [@ironclm](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/ironclm)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/73 "2021-10-16T18:33:16Z")
An iPhone does not work great when you need to have the phone available at all times. Count me as another one who wants an Apple TV app. ---
**Author:** ![Sweeny21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Sweeny21](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Sweeny21)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/74 "2021-10-16T19:05:55Z")
iPhone and lightning-HDMI does not provide full screen video on a TV (no matter what display settings you use). Same applies for mirroring from an iPhone to an AppleTV. This is not an iPhone limitation, it’s a limitation of the SYSTM app. Other iPhone apps like Netflix, Slides and plenty of others do, however, SYSTM does not provide this functionally. If you want to use a TV then you really can not compare using a lightning cable to an AppleTV experience. NOTE: if you use HDMI from a computer (I connect via a MacBook Pro) then you do get full screen video. But having to connect my laptop to the TV every time I want to do a sufferfest video is a PITA. Hopefully if ATV is still a while away at least the iPhone SYSTM app could be updated to support fullscreen via HDMI?? I would prefer this to airplay btw (frame rates would be better with lightning). ---
**Author:** ![JSampson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jsampson/32/3148_2.png) [@JSampson](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/JSampson)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/75 "2021-10-16T19:25:51Z")
@ironclm Sure - same for me. I haven’t had an issue with the app preventing phone calls and texts when running on my phone. If I get an emergency call I can pause the video and take the call. ---
**Author:** ![ironclm](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/ironclm/32/4251_2.png) [@ironclm](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/ironclm)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/76 "2021-10-18T23:01:33Z")
That would entail actually getting off the bike and going over and picking up the phone and answering it. So that will not be happening. ---
**Author:** ![JSampson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jsampson/32/3148_2.png) [@JSampson](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/JSampson)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/77 "2021-10-19T01:19:26Z")
@ironclm Sounds like you will probably need a longer HDMI cable to make it work. Mine is 6 or 8 feet and it reaches from the TV to my handlebars. I have seen cables as long as 20 feet and they are inexpensive - under $20. Using the HDMI Lighting Adapter also allows you to charge the phone while you workout. ---
**Author:** ![Luka](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/luka/32/7245_2.png) [@Luka](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Luka)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2021, 2:11pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/78 "2021-11-12T14:11:00Z")
This tread has been going for a loooong time. Let’s try reverse psychology to see if that will speed up some decisions. 🙂 Don’t make Apple TV app, nobody needs it, users don’t deserve convenience and comfort of working out on a big screen and nice surround systms. Everyone is content with streaming from their tiny devices to their tv’s and only a couple of competition apps have it anyway. ---
**Author:** ![David.McQuillen.KoS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/david.mcquillen.kos/32/6594_2.png) [@David.McQuillen.KoS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/David.McQuillen.KoS)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2021, 5:09am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/79 "2021-11-13T05:09:03Z")
> [@Luka](#): > > Don’t make Apple TV app, nobody needs it, users don’t deserve convenience and comfort of working out on a big screen and nice surround systms. Everyone is content with streaming from their tiny devices to their tv’s and only a couple of competition apps have it anyway. Whew! That’s good to know! ---
**Author:** ![fukawitribe](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/fukawitribe/32/493_2.png) [@fukawitribe](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/fukawitribe)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2021, 2:41pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/80 "2021-12-07T14:41:57Z")
FWIW I have a old Mac Mini, that sits in a cupboard, which is permanently attached to the TV via a HDMI switch for a bunch of inputs. Logitech wireless keyboard with built-in mouse does the driving when I need it - simple, tucked away, runs great and has all the training apps I use on there. It’s bigger than the Apple TV, but small and I can’t see it anyway. I happened to have one, so that sorts out the expense issue in my particular case, but they’re cheap on certain auction sites and quick and easy to upgrade (e.g. SSD, more DRAM) at least until relatively recently. Horses for courses etc and all that. ---
**Author:** ![mycatbites](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/41988e/32.png) [@mycatbites](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/mycatbites)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015/82 "2021-12-11T02:13:45Z")
Android owner: Apple iPhone + HDMI cable kluge $800 + $40 with phone-based SYSTM interface Apple TV + remote with near flawless performance and premium remote interface- $150 Apple TV please. 🙏 [Previous page](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015.md?page=3) [Next page](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/apple-tv-app/1015.md?page=5)