# Do training plans consider age?
**URL:** https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452
**Category:** Training
**Created:** [June 14, 2026, 10:13am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452 "2026-06-14T10:13:58Z")
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### Author:  [@ChrisMTB](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/ChrisMTB)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2026, 10:13am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452/1 "2026-06-14T10:13:58Z")
Hi all.
I am 52 and noticing that sometimes I am pretty fatigued going in to some hard workouts. I usually do the 2:1 plans (2 weeks on, 1 off) as i think i recall one of the podcasts saying that was better as we get older.
I started wondering if the built on plans take in to account your age when considering timing between hard workouts.
I am thinking of getting some coaching advice to get a plan moving forward. Are Apex still around?
Chris
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### Author:  [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2026, 11:17am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452/2 "2026-06-14T11:17:13Z")
> [@ChrisMTB](#):
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> Are Apex still around?
Indeed. With the devil himself. #everyonehatessirneal
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### Author:  [@Steve\_Q](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Steve_Q)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2026, 12:28pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452/3 "2026-06-14T12:28:11Z")
Doesn’t hurt to get advice from a well qualified source… and Apex would know a thing or two about training and how the Suf plans are put together for sure.
The Suf plans are ability based, not aged based. **52 is not that old** (according to this senior citizen), so definitely stick with it, and also consider whether there are other things in your life contributing to your fatigue that you can address such as work stress, improper recovery habits, poor sleep, and more.
Your ability to work through the plans is influenced by lots of things, including your motivation and experience, among others. Every once in a while, I come up against a workout I just can’t manage because of accumulated fatigue. I usually give it a shot anyway with the notion that it will improve my mental toughness, but there are times I have to be realistic with myself and bail out. The fine details of training are unique to each individual and they can be different at different times.
Good luck to you. I’m interested to hear how you make out.
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### Author:  [@Inotrope](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Inotrope)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2026, 5:17pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452/4 "2026-06-14T17:17:54Z")
This reply from Sir @Coach.Mac.C covered this query and concluded similarly
> [@For what athlete (age) are SUF standard training plans? 30, 40.. 70?](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/for-what-athlete-age-are-suf-standard-training-plans-30-40-70/3478/9):
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> Good question. You are correct that as we age our ability to recover is impacted, and the duration of hard training blocks needs to be reduced. All of our current Advanced plans follow a 3 week on 1 week off progression, while our Novice and Intermediate plans will follow a 2:1 progression. In general, we would recommend that athletes over the age of 50 stick with the 2:1 progression (so our current Novice or Intermediate Plans) unless they are highly experienced and know that a 3:1 progressi…
I wonder what the age distribution Sufferlandria is? I suspect we’re an older bunch than those Couchlandrians.
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### Author:  [@Heretic](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Heretic)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2026, 5:29pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452/5 "2026-06-14T17:29:02Z")
I would have set up a poll at this point, but it seems like that ability do this has been taken away from us. I am in my late early 70s.
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### Author:  [@Inotrope](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Inotrope)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2026, 8:11pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452/6 "2026-06-14T20:11:26Z")
Suspect I’m the baby of this thread… at just 50 😂
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### Author:  [@Tim-The-Enchanter](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Tim-The-Enchanter)
#### Post date: [June 16, 2026, 9:32pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452/7 "2026-06-16T21:32:24Z")
That’s a good answer @Steve_Q 😀.
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### Author:  [@SirDale](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/SirDale)
#### Post date: [June 17, 2026, 5:42pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452/8 "2026-06-17T17:42:09Z")
Which plan are you doing?
Also at 52, I’ve added a L2 strength plan to my calendar using the 2:1 setup. The overall layout on the calendar doesn’t look too bad and should integrate well with my riding & running—or _hopeful_ running as I rebound from injury, ergo the strength plan.
Good luck on your continued jouney.
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### Author:  [@ChrisMTB](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/ChrisMTB)
#### Post date: [June 25, 2026, 2:03am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452/9 "2026-06-25T02:03:47Z")
@SirDale I was doing the Gravel 100 mile plan including level 5 strength and beginner yoga (2:1).
I just did a 106 km [gravel race](https://www.strava.com/activities/18991406070) which included 2600m of climbing (frequently over 10%). I had a new bike and felt really good, but was slower than last year which was slower than the year before. Hence feeling like I am stagnating a bit.
After listening to some podcasts and watching random GCN videos I am thinking I need to mix things up a bit. I am going to work through the MAP progression workouts once a week, and do a low cadence or standing start type of workout each week too. Then include (hopefully) a long ride on the weekend. I am thinking to move back to level 4 strength, but use heavier weights to increase the load in that way.
So, each week will be MAP (30:15 or 40:20 or similar), NM (low cadence, standing starts, cadence builds / drills on the rest weeks), and a long ride along with 2 sessions of body weight.
Alternatively I get in touch with Apex (or a local coach) and look at other options.
@Steve_Q there are definitely some other stressors. Work is fine, but I have a couple of kids. The youngest (7 yo) has a neurlogical disability which can make it hard for me to get out for a ride sometimes as it puts all the load onto my partner. Hence the “hopefully” next to the long ride plan above.
Thanks all!
Chris
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### Author:  [@Noah](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Noah)
#### Post date: [September 1, 2026, 9:24am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/do-training-plans-consider-age/31452/10 "2026-09-01T09:24:05Z")
> [@ChrisMTB](#):
>
> Hi all.
>
> I am 52 and noticing that sometimes I am pretty fatigued going in to some hard workouts. I usually do the 2:1 plans (2 weeks on, 1 off) as i think i recall one of the podcasts saying that was better as we get older.
>
> I started wondering if the built on plans take in to account your age when considering timing between hard workouts.
>
> I am thinking of getting some coaching advice to get a plan moving forward. Are Apex still around?
>
> Chri
At 52, I think paying attention to how you feel going into those hard sessions is more useful than blindly following the calendar. A 2:1 setup can work great, but recovery is going to vary from person to person.
If you’re regularly feeling beat up before the hard sessions, that’s probably a sign to look at the overall workload and recovery rather than just adding more training. Sleep, stress, and what you’re doing outside the bike all count too.
Getting some coaching sounds like a solid move. A good plan should fit your life and recovery, not the other way around.