# Help with picking training plan **URL:** \ **Category:** Training Plans\ **Created:** [June 22, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/help-with-picking-training-plan/18840 "2022-06-22T15:42:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LukeDuncan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LukeDuncan](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/LukeDuncan)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 3:42pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/help-with-picking-training-plan/18840/1 "2022-06-22T15:42:53Z")
Hi all, Newer to formal training plans and have been on Sufferfest since last September. I completed a 100mi gravel plan this winter for a 75mi 6000ft gravel event and felt undertrained for the climbing, but was fine endurance-wise for a sloppy wet and cold gravel event in April. Now I’m signed up for a 100k with 7500ft of climbing (Cabot Ride the Ridges) in 12 weeks and am waffling between mountainous 100k fondo plan (supplemented with longer outside endurance/climbing rides) and the 100mi gravel plan (supplemented with more climbing). Longest climb is 1100ft over 6 miles (3.7% avg) but it starts with a 1000ft climb over 3mi (6% avg). Wondering if anyone has thoughts on which is more appropriate? Thanks! ~Luke ---
**Author:** ![TrapMeSuf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/trapmesuf/32/10401_2.png) [@TrapMeSuf](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/TrapMeSuf)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 6:05pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/help-with-picking-training-plan/18840/2 "2022-06-22T18:05:38Z")
Hi Luke and welcome! You can’t go wrong with the mountainous Fondo plan and lengthening your endurance rides. For reference: I’ve done the mountainous Fondo without any additional work to train for Liege Bastogne Liege, a 255km & 4500m climbing. Went pretty well, I must say. ---
**Author:** ![JGreengrass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jgreengrass/32/2628_2.png) [@JGreengrass](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/JGreengrass)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 8:57am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/help-with-picking-training-plan/18840/3 "2022-06-23T08:57:39Z")
Why do you think you were undertrained for the climbing? ---
**Author:** ![LukeDuncan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LukeDuncan](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/LukeDuncan)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/help-with-picking-training-plan/18840/4 "2022-06-23T18:56:11Z")
Specifically, outdoor pacing of climbs over 10 minutes and repeat sustained efforts above ftp ---
**Author:** ![ErickT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/erickt/32/7168_2.png) [@ErickT](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/ErickT)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 7:43pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/help-with-picking-training-plan/18840/5 "2022-06-23T19:43:30Z")
Have you considered the 100 mile MTB plan? ---
**Author:** ![Coach.Simon.B](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/coach.simon.b/32/1112_2.png) [@Coach.Simon.B](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Coach.Simon.B)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:40am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/help-with-picking-training-plan/18840/6 "2022-06-24T03:40:22Z")
Hello @LukeDuncan For your goal event you’ve signed up for, I suggest you choose the Mountain Fondo- High Volume with Strength and Yoga. If you have not performed a Half Monty or a 4DP Test in the last 3 weeks, I recommend you complete one so your zones are dialed in before you begin your Plan! There can be a significant difference between your indoor and outdoor power so ideally you would replicate the test outdoors. The 100 mile MTB plan @ErickT recommended is also a great option with a little less volume, but makes up for it with more intensity! Happy Training! ---
**Author:** ![LukeDuncan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9f8e36/32.png) [@LukeDuncan](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/LukeDuncan)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 10:47am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/help-with-picking-training-plan/18840/7 "2022-06-24T10:47:03Z")
@Coach.Simon.B thank you!