# Including Outside riding days **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests\ **Created:** [August 23, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/including-outside-riding-days/10928 "2021-08-23T16:58:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![MSR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@MSR](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/MSR)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 4:58pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/including-outside-riding-days/10928/1 "2021-08-23T16:58:43Z")
Hi Several features which would make the app much easier to use, some of which I have already found mentioned in the forum, others I haven’t: - Be able to shift the whole plan and not have to cancel it and redo it with finishing date, etc. Right now it is a PITA missing a session and trying to redo the whole plan - Be able to select “weekends off” just so the plan doesn’t interfere with the real riding outside (in my case I train with Sufferfest to be able to ride faster, for a longer time) - doesn’t make sense I have to reshuffle the plan because I was actually riding for real - Be able to upload strava/garmin/stages data from rides on to the app to have a full picture of your overall training (also useful for workouts you can actually do outside, like standing starts) - Be able to configure resting days/have a “tiredness” workout to check if you’re over trained: I feel most of the plans tend to over do it with the training intensity, and there is not enough focus on active recovery/rest - too much is worse than too little - Yoga/Strength workouts should also be grouped but in this case under targeted muscle groups (abs, legs, arms) - takes a while to find what you’re looking for under the current system I know some of this is redundant, but I don’t think it should be so hard to implement and it would make the app almost perfect ---
**Author:** ![jmckenzieKOS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jmckenziekos/32/2135_2.png) [@jmckenzieKOS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/jmckenzieKOS)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 8:48pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/including-outside-riding-days/10928/2 "2021-08-23T20:48:17Z")
There are plans with Outside rides on the weekends. You may have to select several plans to add in strength and yoga though and I highly recommend you do so. They are designed for cycling and will help even out the rough spots! ---
**Author:** ![MSR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@MSR](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/MSR)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2021, 9:11pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/including-outside-riding-days/10928/3 "2021-08-23T21:11:05Z")
Yes, I know, but it’s no more that one day, (if that, and not for all weekends) that I’ve seen and I would rather be able to select the full weekend off if I want to and not have to fish around so that I find a plan that has free weekends because in that case maybe I don’t like the plan, or I’d rather do another one - or maybe the plan has free weekends but depending on when you start it the free days will not match the weekends - better to add the option to free them up…or if it’s that difficult, find another app. Same thing with yoga and strength - I add yoga and strength to my plans, but sometimes I need to stretch a specific muscle or want to do an extra session for core, or abs or whatever I fancy - being able to find them quickly would help, instead of checking whether intermediate strength II does what I want it to do - again, not rocket science, just asking for ease of use - after all it’s users that pay for the app, so maybe listen to suggestions? Thank you ---
**Author:** ![jmckenzieKOS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jmckenziekos/32/2135_2.png) [@jmckenzieKOS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/jmckenzieKOS)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2021, 12:21am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/including-outside-riding-days/10928/4 "2021-08-24T00:21:09Z")
@MSR The plans are flexible enough that you CAN take a weekend off if you feel you need to. Most are Endurance/Tempo as well. If you need to shorten time on the bike, you can do that as well. There is a forum post as well as a blog post on the [sufferfest.com](http://sufferfest.com) with what to do if you skip a workout and another post when you should. Right now I’m doing the Century plan and just finished the Hilly Grand Fondo plan and both have weekend rides that I could do during the week. ---
**Author:** ![rinaf](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/rinaf/32/13419_2.png) [@rinaf](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/rinaf)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2021, 7:26pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/including-outside-riding-days/10928/5 "2021-08-30T19:26:24Z")
lol @ ‘actually riding for real’ 😂 I regularly shift the specific day of an activity use the ‘change workout date’ – if I’ve missed or want to push a week’s worth, then I would reschedule the whole plan, otherwise this suits me. And if I’m doing an outdoor ride that I think is at least as much of a ride as whatever was scheduled, I click ‘mark as done’ – the training plan is for me and the benefit of improving my cycling, so I’m in charge of whether it’s considered done or not 🙂 ![Screenshot 2021-08-30 at 20.22.56](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/2X/4/43843384b1b66954eb2d47e86ea0a3d81db334ee.png) ---
**Author:** ![MSR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@MSR](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/MSR)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/including-outside-riding-days/10928/6 "2021-08-31T13:52:49Z")
Yeah, I do shift days too, but I think my point hasn’t come across clearly 😅 : - If the training plans are set up in order, I assume it is because they have been designed that way, shifting one day occasionally is ok, but having to shift several is: a) a pain, as you have to check beforehand where you have a free slot and where the specific workout can fit in best (I wish there was a drag and drop feature in the calendar) b) defeats the purpose of following a plan in the first place - if I am going to end up with workouts just rearranged haphazardly, then I might as well train by feel rather than “science” - hence my suggestion of just moving the whole plan as a block forward from a date I admit that may be my OCD talking, just as marking a workout as done which I’ve never been able to do - when I ride outside I go by volume, rather than structured intensity, so the type of training, even though it is higher volume when outside, is not of the same quality - as I said in b) I follow Sufferfest plans because I believe they are structured logically and pack better training in less time than just going riding, and thus is why I try to follow the order in which they are set and finish all of them without skipping any. Anyway, thanks for the tips 😉