# Outdoor runs and rides **URL:** \ **Category:** SYSTM Software\ **Created:** [July 16, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/outdoor-runs-and-rides/23136 "2023-07-16T17:59:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![karim\_ouaddane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/karim_ouaddane/32/16269_2.png) [@karim\_ouaddane](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/karim_ouaddane)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 5:59pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/outdoor-runs-and-rides/23136/1 "2023-07-16T17:59:15Z")
Outdoor runs and rides How do you upload outdoor runs and ride to wahoo systm? Karim ---
**Author:** ![rdo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/rdo/32/7217_2.png) [@rdo](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/rdo)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 6:43pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/outdoor-runs-and-rides/23136/2 "2023-07-16T18:43:18Z")
Everything about Wahoo Systm and outdoor rides is described here [https://support.wahoofitness.com/hc/en-us/articles/7671514838674-Wahoo-SYSTM-Outdoor-Structured-Workouts](https://support.wahoofitness.com/hc/en-us/articles/7671514838674-Wahoo-SYSTM-Outdoor-Structured-Workouts) If you want to import your outdoor rides/runs into Wahoo Systm calendar to log your training diary I am afraid it is not possible. For training log functionality you should use something else like TrainingPeaks, Today’s Plan, Strava or similar applications. Edit: I moved the post from _Systm Content_ to _Systm Software_ section as it relates to software features itself rather than its existing content. ---
**Author:** ![JSampson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jsampson/32/3148_2.png) [@JSampson](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/JSampson)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/outdoor-runs-and-rides/23136/3 "2023-07-16T18:48:35Z")
> [@karim\_ouaddane](#): > > How do you upload outdoor runs and ride to wahoo systm? @karim_ouaddane Right now the only possible way is to record the ride or run on a Wahoo device (Element Roam, Bolt or the Rival) or use the Wahoo Fitness App or the Wahoo Element Companion App. > **[Fitness Apps for Cycling & Running](https://www.wahoofitness.com/fitness-apps)** > > Wahoo Fitness products are compatible with hundreds of cycling apps, running & fitness apps that help maximize and transform your workout. I read somewhere that the long term plan is to be an open platform - allowing recording on other devices to be loaded to the calendar - but for now it is just Wahoo specific devices and software. As @rdo notes it is not possible to import prior activities and lots of other athletes use other apps in addition to SYSTM to track training. ---
**Author:** ![CraigM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@CraigM](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CraigM)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 7:07pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/outdoor-runs-and-rides/23136/4 "2023-07-16T19:07:24Z")
I don’t import outdoor rides into SYSTM, I dual record them. I always ride with my phone and outdoors also with a Garmin head unit. Since my power meter, speed sensor and Heart Rate monitors all have Bluetooth and ANT+, I record the ride using ANT+ on my Garmin and I use my SYSTM Bluetooth on the phone to record using a long no-vid endurance ride, which I will never use indoors because there isn’t enough chamois cream in the world for 3 hours on the non-rocking trainer… This also works indoors if you are using a simulator app like FulGaz. ---
**Author:** ![karim\_ouaddane](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/karim_ouaddane/32/16269_2.png) [@karim\_ouaddane](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/karim_ouaddane)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/outdoor-runs-and-rides/23136/5 "2023-07-16T20:28:40Z")
@CraigM excellent idea I will try that. Karim