# Preparing for the Wahooligan Tour **URL:** \ **Category:** The Wahooligan Tour\ **Created:** [January 27, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393 "2023-01-27T14:33:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rupert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/rupert/32/22303_2.png) [@Rupert](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Rupert)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 2:33pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/1 "2023-01-27T14:33:30Z")
Hey Everyone, So the Route has been announced and I hope everyone is excited for this year’s fun! Stage 1: The Sufferfest - [Cash Register](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/6LnpmGMTMG) + [Revolver](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/xjx8cV9fzM) Stage 2: The Sufferfest - [Attacker](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/k0MlcITKGW) Stage 3: A Week With Neal Henderson - [Rabbit Mountain](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/cGdqvcrlGl) Stage 4: On Location Portugal - [Nazare to Foz do Arelho](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/VZIUofmiGW) Stage 5: ProRide - [Tour de Suisse Women 2](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/tBEu9LdjEy) (coming soon!) Stage 6: A Week With UCI World Cycling Center - [Road](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/uXDmbon4O2) Stage 7: To Get To The Other Side workout on RGT Stelvio - \* \*_We would love you to come and experience RGT with us and close out the Tour in some group rides. However if you would like to complete the Tour just on SYSTM, you can Ride the [To Get To The Other Side](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/Vkvw4AccdA) workout there and still get your Wahooligant Tour 2023 Badge._ Form more information on everything happening this year, we have put together this article: > **[How To Prepare For The Tour](https://support.wahoofitness.com/hc/en-us/articles/4415022952338-How-To-Prepare-For-The-Tour)** > > The Wahooligan Tour 2023 > 1.  How Do I Register > In order to participate in The Wahooligan Tour, please register with the  Davis Phinney Foundation. We ride the Tour each year in order to raise funds... We will be updating this in the next few days with things like: - Race Bibs - poster sales - and more… ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 2:51pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/2 "2023-01-27T14:51:11Z")
> [@Rupert](#): > > in the next few days hahahaha…fool me once… ---
**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 5:20pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/3 "2023-01-27T17:20:58Z")
> [@Glen.Coutts](#): > > > [@Rupert](#): > > > > in the next few days > > hahahaha…fool me once… ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/2X/4/439c7fa3949a233907f919f8bcc47fb7cfd125a2.jpeg) (and no, it was NOT Einstein who said it.) ---
**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 6:13pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/4 "2023-01-27T18:13:34Z")
> [@Rupert](#): > > Hey Everyone, > > So the Route has been announced and I hope everyone is excited for this year’s fun! First hot take. About what I expected from the \*\*\*\*\*\*\*\*\* Tour’s “expanded universe”. > [@](#): > > Stage 1: The Sufferfest - [Cash Register](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/6LnpmGMTMG) + [Revolver](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/xjx8cV9fzM) ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 1:21, 122 combined TSS, classic stages, and _ **Cash Register** _ in honor of @DPhin. Worthy of a Sufferlandrian Tour. > [@](#): > > Stage 2: The Sufferfest - [Attacker](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/k0MlcITKGW) ⭐⭐⭐ A worthy ride, and also honors DPF, but by itself? We literally closed out the 2021 ToS with _ **Defender** _ and _ **Attacker** _ back-to-back. > [@](#): > > Stage 3: A Week With Neal Henderson - [Rabbit Mountain](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/cGdqvcrlGl) ⭐⭐(ish) A hard effort, and no question the toughest ride in the @Coach.Neal.H library, but more than 1/3 of the stages are going to be ride-alongs? No offense, and I get what you’re trying to do here, Wahoo, but these types of videos (to me) are good for a couple of times, then I tend to find something else to do to pass the time. Not what I’d want to see for Tour stages. > [@](#): > > Stage 4: On Location Portugal - [Nazare to Foz do Arelho](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/VZIUofmiGW) ⭐(ish) Man, you guys are going to make me razz on Sir @michael.cotty! 🫤 I mean, it’s fine. It’s not hard (58min/46TSS) - the third “easiest” On Location ride by TSS. I literally just did this yesterday as a recovery ride and found it less engaging than any number of other On Location vids. (Sorry Mike, we love you!) > [@](#): > > Stage 5: ProRide - [Tour de Suisse Women 2](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/tBEu9LdjEy) (coming soon!) ⭐⭐⭐⭐ (presumptive). Yeah, no worries here. Adding the first ProRide to the ToS a couple years ago (Norway) was as cool as it was gruesome. The _ **Tour de Suisse 1** _ is one of the most horrible ProRides, so I’m sure the ladies won’t disappoint. So OK. Bonus star for shiny new toy. > [@](#): > > Stage 6: A Week With UCI World Cycling Center - [Road](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/uXDmbon4O2) ⭐ Hard, hard ride, no question. Yet another ride-along. And we literally JUST DID THIS ONE for the UCI challenge in December? Think I will queue up _Band of Brothers_, in honor of DPF and Team 7-Eleven, to watch while I do this one. Will even wear my 7-eleven kit. Everyone is welcome to join me. > [@](#): > > Stage 7: To Get To The Other Side workout on RGT Stelvio - \* Unknown potential. Stelvio group ride would be awesome. Stelvio group ride on RGT could be…great? hot mess? 🤔 Anyway, just my gut reaction. Take it for what you will. Rides will be ridden, adult recovery beverages will be consumed. Long live Sufferlandria. ---
**Author:** ![emacdoug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/emacdoug/32/15557_2.png) [@emacdoug](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/emacdoug)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 7:24pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/5 "2023-01-27T19:24:50Z")
> [@CPT\_A](#): > > (and no, it was NOT Einstein who said it.) What if we keep repeating it, tho? ---
**Author:** ![emacdoug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/emacdoug/32/15557_2.png) [@emacdoug](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/emacdoug)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 7:30pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/6 "2023-01-27T19:30:57Z")
That’s a pretty good assessment. I will likely be riding extra to make up for the lack of volume and SUF rides. I’ll even ride every workout in a knight’s helmet in exchange for donations. ⚔💸 Maybe all knights can ride Stage 5 in lederhosen… ---
**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 7:35pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/7 "2023-01-27T19:35:46Z")
> [@emacdoug](#): > > > [@CPT\_A](#): > > > > (and no, it was NOT Einstein who said it.) > > What if we keep repeating it, tho? Then you’re crazy… 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 7:39pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/8 "2023-01-27T19:39:06Z")
> [@emacdoug](#): > > That’s a pretty good assessment. I will likely be riding extra to make up for the lack of volume and SUF rides. Again, I get it - apparently they want to make it “accessible to everyone”, meaning averaged out so anyone can complete at full gas. I would argue not exactly in the spirit of the Tour, but obv. that ship has sailed. I will miss going nuclear. > [@](#): > > I’ll even ride every workout in a knight’s helmet in exchange for donations. ⚔💸 > > Maybe all knights can ride Stage 5 in lederhosen… Oooh, leather pants? 😬 I will have my cow bell and Bavarian hat, at a minimum. ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 8:25pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/9 "2023-01-27T20:25:09Z")
> [@emacdoug](#): > > I’ll even ride every workout in a knight’s helmet hmmmm… ---
**Author:** ![IsiSchneider\_KoS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/isischneider_kos/32/23131_2.png) [@IsiSchneider\_KoS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/IsiSchneider_KoS)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/10 "2023-01-27T21:02:15Z")
> [@emacdoug](#): > > Maybe all knights can ride Stage 5 in lederhosen… I was actually thinking about riding one of the stages in Lederhos’n for an extra donation. not necessarily the Suisse one cos they’re not a Swiss tradition ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_Alan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/sir_alan/32/14036_2.png) [@Sir\_Alan](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Sir_Alan)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 1:41am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/11 "2023-01-28T01:41:43Z")
> [@CPT\_A](#): > > I will miss going nuclear. You can still do it. As said in the other thread you can always dial it down the intensity, what wasn’t touched upon was that you can also dial it UP if you feel you’re not being punished enough! I’d recommend a good starting point of around 200% but nothing less than 150% 😈. ---
**Author:** ![AndyP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8baadc/32.png) [@AndyP](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/AndyP)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 11:59am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/12 "2023-01-28T11:59:19Z")
> [@CPT\_A](#): > > apparently they want to make it “accessible to everyone”, meaning averaged out so anyone can complete at full gas. That’s a hard week. There will not be many that are able to complete it all at 100%. Coming into stage 5 with 4 days riding done and sore legs that massive sweetspot block is going to have people reaching for the down arrow. ---
**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 12:51pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/13 "2023-01-28T12:51:06Z")
Certainly won’t be “easy”, @AndyP. For the record, though, quick napkin math: last year’s ToS on nuclear was combined 777 TSS. And the 2021 ToS (which I thought was peak suffering) was 800. The Tour de whatchamacallit is currently 427, plus the new ProRide and the RGT thing. Unless those two turn out to be absolutely inhuman(e) when released, this year is a SIGNIFICANT drop off from peak ToS level suffering. So not easy, but not hard? Relatively anyways. ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 1:43pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/14 "2023-01-28T13:43:59Z")
If Stage 5 doesn’t kill me, Stage 6 will. Stage 6 killed me when I was fresh so… ---
**Author:** ![David](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/David)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 8:13pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/15 "2023-01-28T20:13:59Z")
Previously, I only managed to complete ToS on nuclear by using the 50 hour window and stretching it out to 9 days (and I only did that once). This Tour actually seems quite doable in 7 days. That easy Stage 4 day should help a lot with regeneration. So while maybe “easy” is not a good description (simply because some of the workouts in it can’t be called easy even if you do them fully rested), I wouldn’t call it overly challenging either. In other words, completing this Tour on 100% likely won’t give me the sense of accomplishment that I got from that one nuclear ToS I managed, or the Knighthood… ---
**Author:** ![David](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@David](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/David)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 8:16pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/16 "2023-01-28T20:16:50Z")
Nah, you’ll be fine for Stage 5, there’s a recovery day preceding it. Stage 6 looks like the only tricky one (assuming 5 will be as hard as we expect it to be). And, of course, Stage 1, as Revolver can be tricky on its own, without another workout preceding it. ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/17 "2023-01-28T20:28:30Z")
Full disclosure, I’ve only done 4/16 Pro Rides for a reason 😉 ---
**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\ **Post date:** [January 28, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/18 "2023-01-28T20:42:32Z")
RIGHT? I’ve been humbled a few times there. ---
**Author:** ![DameLisa](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/damelisa/32/8327_2.png) [@DameLisa](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/DameLisa)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2023, 8:51pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/19 "2023-01-29T20:51:51Z")
> [@CPT\_A](#): > > Unknown potential. Stelvio group ride would be awesome. Stelvio group ride on RGT could be…great? hot mess? 🤔 Can confirm group riding Stelvio is awesome. Have done it as a group ride with mates over lockdown twice and it was EPIC fun!!! We played with weight penalties and had a race, it was brilliant. Will be a bit diff as a workout but I REALLY recommend organising an event for RGT and getting all your Couchlandrian and cycling mates using other software to ride with you. ---
**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 9:59pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393/20 "2023-01-30T21:59:09Z")
> [@emacdoug](#): > > I will likely be riding extra to make up for the lack of volume and SUF rides. Am considering (CONSIDERING, Sir @Glen.Coutts!) tacking _ **Kitchen Sink** _ on to the end as a “Stage 8”, on the 19th, in order to (finally) get my “All of Sufferfest” badge… [Next page](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/preparing-for-the-wahooligan-tour/21393.md?page=2)