# Primers! **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [April 25, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968 "2025-04-25T19:05:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gideon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/gideon/32/17939_2.png) [@Gideon](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Gideon)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/1 "2025-04-25T19:05:39Z")
Hiya folks, I have ‘Primers’ scheduled in my calendar before my Full Frontal. However ‘SYSTEM’ tells me it’s currently not available. What replacement work out would be best to replace it for the time being? ---
**Author:** ![Utan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/utan/32/17540_2.png) [@Utan](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Utan)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 7:13pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/2 "2025-04-25T19:13:26Z")
I think you can do Primers, but because of the remaster you’ll have to go via the library and not the calendar. ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2025, 9:20pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/3 "2025-04-25T21:20:57Z")
What @Utan said but be prepared for disappointment as the primers of old, with all the Knight stuff, and preparing for battle etc could have been an easy win for The Company by just adding some tunes, and updating any expired licensed cycling footage. Instead you’re left with this thing, whatever it is, it might prime you physically but it will do nothing for your mental state. I’d either do the no-vid version, the Phil Gaimon version or No Place Like Home ---
**Author:** ![Brett\_Kent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/brett_kent/32/10806_2.png) [@Brett\_Kent](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Brett_Kent)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 8:15am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/4 "2025-04-26T08:15:20Z")
Mine is the same, I was able to complete the workout using my head-unit. However I also noticed that I don’t see the Full Frontal workout isn’t showing on my Roam. This is very frustrating! It makes the platform unusable. ---
**Author:** ![Gideon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/gideon/32/17939_2.png) [@Gideon](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Gideon)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 8:41am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/5 "2025-04-26T08:41:27Z")
See, I knew one of you scholars out there would point me in the right direction. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Gideon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/gideon/32/17939_2.png) [@Gideon](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Gideon)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 8:42am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/6 "2025-04-26T08:42:52Z")
Thank you Sir Glen, as insightful as ever. ---
**Author:** ![Gideon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/gideon/32/17939_2.png) [@Gideon](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Gideon)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 8:46am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/7 "2025-04-26T08:46:10Z")
Wow, using a laptop/tablet can have it’s issues, but just using a bike computer…you’re a braver person than me Gunga Din…!!! ---
**Author:** ![Brett\_Kent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/brett_kent/32/10806_2.png) [@Brett\_Kent](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Brett_Kent)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 8:56am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/8 "2025-04-26T08:56:00Z")
It was a last resort, not exactly my first choice… 🙃 ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 11:24am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/9 "2025-04-26T11:24:13Z")
@Brett_Kent If they’ve made any modifications to ANY part of any video _after_ you’ve already added a plan to your calendar, you’ll get that message. You’ll still be able to access the workouts but you’ll just need to go get it from the library instead of just clicking/tapping it from the calendar. The message should really say just that. “This video is unavailable as there may have been changes since you loaded your plan. Please access the workout from the library”. Also, fwiw, I don’t believe that either of the fitness tests (FF or HM) have outdoor equivalents in Systm so they’ll never show up on your wahoo head unit. ---
**Author:** ![sir\_james.p](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/sir_james.p/32/18843_2.png) [@sir\_james.p](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/sir_james.p)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 11:28am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/10 "2025-04-26T11:28:40Z")
Just done the new primers for the second time. Thought I’d give it another go. But nope, the only thing that remastering has achieved is mastering the art of producing the workout video equivalent of lift music. It’s is just so dull. Who is the customer for this content. Who is out there saying, ‘if only I had a really bland video to accompany my workout.’ If there is indeed a market for it then wahoo have nailed it. ---
**Author:** ![sir\_james.p](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/sir_james.p/32/18843_2.png) [@sir\_james.p](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/sir_james.p)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 11:29am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/11 "2025-04-26T11:29:34Z")
Don’t not feel in anyway fired up for my race tomorrow. Primed and ready for a nap though. ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 11:32am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/12 "2025-04-26T11:32:15Z")
NPLH or Phil Gaimon or maybe you could DM someone you might know for a screen recording of the old one to be played with the Systm workout in mini player mode. ---
**Author:** ![sir\_james.p](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/sir_james.p/32/18843_2.png) [@sir\_james.p](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/sir_james.p)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 11:40am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/13 "2025-04-26T11:40:05Z")
I’ll just put something else on, or my own music in future. ---
**Author:** ![Brett\_Kent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/brett_kent/32/10806_2.png) [@Brett\_Kent](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Brett_Kent)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2025, 9:39pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/14 "2025-04-26T21:39:53Z")
Thank you, I agree it really should say that. Rather than making you believe that there is something very wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 1:41am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/primers/28968/15 "2025-05-20T01:41:02Z")
FYI, The Company is now seeking input into their remasters (aka de-SUFed content). > [@Sufferfest remasters](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/sufferfest-remasters/29100): > > There’s been quite a bit of conversation lately about the remastering of some beloved Sufferfest videos. Even the laser goats had something to say, staging a roadside protest during the Giro. [[When Goats attack - cyclists edition] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1BNaQ0EueE) We would like to provide some background related to our recent remastering project. In response to an unexpected end to a licensing agreement, we have had to quickly update some of our videos. The alternative would have been to remove the videos from our …