# Relative fitness data- age etc
**URL:** https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/relative-fitness-data-age-etc/14592
**Category:** Training
**Created:** [December 1, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/relative-fitness-data-age-etc/14592 "2021-12-01T04:59:30Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@mycatbites](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/mycatbites)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 4:59am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/relative-fitness-data-age-etc/14592/1 "2021-12-01T04:59:30Z")
Would it be possible for SYSTM to provide insights to one’s (relative) fitness relative to cohorts (pros, age groups, gender, etc.) based on 4DP metrics?
Thanks!
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### Author:  [@Sir\_Brian\_M](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Sir_Brian_M)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 9:39am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/relative-fitness-data-age-etc/14592/2 "2021-12-01T09:39:34Z")
Already been done. Only I can’t find the blog post. There was an interactive chart that allowed you to enter your gender, age and 4DP to see where you fell on the 4DP bell curves. Each rider was compared to their FTP by age and gender.
The only thing missing was a conversion to W/kg which would provide a comparison to the pros.
Maybe someone has the link?
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### Author:  [@TTDragon](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/TTDragon)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 10:22am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/relative-fitness-data-age-etc/14592/3 "2021-12-01T10:22:18Z")
I’ve been looking too and can’t find it.
This is the forum post by @David.McQuillen.KoS but the link is broken since the move to SYSTM. Any plans for it to be returned?
> [@How do you compare?](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/how-do-you-compare/682):
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> Wonder how your 4DP profile compares to others like you? You’ll find a calculator toward the [bottom of this article](https://thesufferfest.com/blogs/training-resources/is-your-training-app-accurate) which will allow you to enter your FTP and see the range of 4DP abilities for all athletes in our database with your FTP. Go here to try it: [https://thesufferfest.com/blogs/training-resources/is-your-training-app-accurate](https://thesufferfest.com/blogs/training-resources/is-your-training-app-accurate)
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### Author:  [@JureL](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/JureL)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 11:08am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/relative-fitness-data-age-etc/14592/4 "2021-12-01T11:08:07Z")
If you scroll to the last post in that thread there’s a link with a calculator in it:
> **[Why You Should Drop FTP and Train with 4DP](https://web.archive.org/web/20210119112918/https://thesufferfest.com/blogs/training-resources/is-your-training-app-accurate)**
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> Workouts based on FTP can result in targets that are inaccurate for up to 94% of athletes - a problem which training with 4DP avoids.
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### Author:  [@mycatbites](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/mycatbites)
#### Post date: [December 1, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/relative-fitness-data-age-etc/14592/5 "2021-12-01T17:29:03Z")
@JureL@Sir_Brian_M Thanks! Great stuff and helps me understand my relative fitness better. The graph part of that article didn’t work on my browser, however. I guess the missing piece is still where does my FTP sits relative to my cohort? I wasn’t able to get that from the archived Sufferfest post.
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### Author:  [@sheeschen](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/sheeschen)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2021, 5:38am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/relative-fitness-data-age-etc/14592/6 "2021-12-02T05:38:38Z")
There’s also intervals.icu - go there and link to your Strava account. After slurping in all your data, it will produce more graphs than you care to look at. On the power page, you can compare yourself to different age groups and see where you sit on the bell curves. They coincidentally look at your 5s, 60s, 5m, and 20m power levels.
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### Author:  [@mycatbites](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/mycatbites)
#### Post date: [December 2, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/relative-fitness-data-age-etc/14592/7 "2021-12-02T23:51:53Z")
Yikes schnikes! That’s a lotta graphs! Unfortunately, two more platforms to manage. I was hoping SYSTM being a more comprehensive training system might provide data on your comparative fitness. Sufferfest apparently did.
Intervals.icu certainly does it and more and I thank you kindly for the tip. 👍