# The 2025 wahooligan tour stage 2 - official race thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Wahooligan Tour\ **Created:** [February 23, 2025, 10:13am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779 "2025-02-23T10:13:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rupert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/rupert/32/22303_2.png) [@Rupert](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Rupert)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 10:13am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/1 "2025-02-23T10:13:51Z")
**The Wahooligan Tour STAGE 2** - _Monday February 24_ Hello, Wahooligans! Ready for Stage 2? šŸ¤© Itā€™s time for All Access! Join EF Pro Cycling for a group ride of 3 8-minute FTP over-under intervals. Apart from getting to know some of the stars like Neilson Powless, Kim Cadzow, and Michael Valgren, this session will have you training your body to be more efficient when working just below FTP. **[DONATE NOW](https://secure2.convio.net/dpf/site/Donation2?idb=338483399&df_id=1921&FR_ID=1391&mfc_pref=T&PROXY_ID=1391&PROXY_TYPE=21&1921.donation=form1)** ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/d/a/dae0ad229cf80847fa698a11e86471efa6c461ae.jpeg) **[All Access: Over-Under](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/NCHffhDtGa)** _Join the mixed EF group ride for 3 FTP over-under intervals. Youā€™ll find out more about the teamā€™s goals for the upcoming 2024 season as well as getting to know some of the stars of the team including Neilson Powless, Kim Cadzow and Michael Valgren who share what life is like as a professional cyclist both on and off the bike._ _The concept of over-unders is simple, alternate blocks of time just below your FTP, with equal duration blocks just above your FTP. For this session, each interval is 8-minutes in length, with 1-minute blocks at 95% of FTP (Under) and 1-minute blocks at 105% of FTP (Over). The real training benefit comes from that time spent just below FTP trying to ā€œRecover.ā€ Physiologically, you train your body to be more efficient when working just below FTP._ ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/4/a/4a43b584c197db350005b608aa72faba86ea2798.png) Remember, you have 50 hours to complete each stage. As long as itā€™s still todayā€™s date anywhere on earth, youā€™re golden. Check out the [Tour Challenge Page](https://systm.wahoofitness.com/progress?section=awards) for details on stage open and close times. ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/eric/32/21360_2.png) [@Eric](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 3:26pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/2 "2025-02-23T15:26:54Z")
Stage II done. The very first ā€œOverā€ at 100% was very clear that I was not going to be able to do 24 minutes of Over-Unders at 100% so, I dialed them down to 80% with one, 100% ā€œOverā€ in each interval set. I was another nail today. Oh well. On to Stage III tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![emacdoug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/emacdoug/32/15557_2.png) [@emacdoug](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/emacdoug)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 6:21pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/3 "2025-02-23T18:21:06Z")
> [@Rupert](#): > > Hello, Wahooligans! ![IMG_8295](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/3/3/3378e2379c994c1c58a3dc50a7cd0615ba5b5390.gif) I think you mean ā€œSufferlandriansā€. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/2X/c/c41657e234dbe3c9d37d0a13f933fb73b68866f5.jpeg) ![IMG_2258](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/e/5/e507c1eba299a5f11bc0f7e7fb4a95dadfe40e7e.png) ---
**Author:** ![gwydion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/gwydion/32/14578_2.png) [@gwydion](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/gwydion)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/4 "2025-02-23T19:14:07Z")
[Same procedure as previous stage](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-1-official-race-thread/27757/12), hereā€™s your corrected image: ![Stage2-denazified](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/3/1/31e9b0a1d32162256e2d46f6a4ccc5133538e3f7.png) Funny drawings to followā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Eric](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/eric/32/21360_2.png) [@Eric](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Eric)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/5 "2025-02-23T19:44:23Z")
There. I fixed it. ![IMG_0623](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/b/4/b4aaaaba00999ec0d0c6a533e81f0a560567a12f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DameCristy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/damecristy/32/3519_2.png) [@DameCristy](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/DameCristy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 9:34pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/6 "2025-02-23T21:34:59Z")
All right, I did it. The intervals were definitely SUF-worthy, especially after Team Scream. But seriously, Wahoo: ![5dux](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/a/e/ae53de584bae39864f23d6a9324964b9ef590d4e.gif) I am a big EF fan, but this is how thrilled I am to hear about how much Michael Valgren plays D&D and Kim Cadzow loves being a Wahoo\*\*\*an: ![PXL_20250223_212433792](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/b/b/bb07ecd6aff65bdbe242e79193db957b53f73716.jpeg) Onward. TWAAW. Xoom Xoom! ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/7 "2025-02-23T22:17:09Z")
100% @DameCristy!! šŸ¤®šŸ¤®šŸ¤®šŸ¤®šŸ¤® Someone better call Gerry! Today, Iā€™m just doing resistance training ![IMG_9200](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/1/c/1c212509d4e6578ee652822a1807c61f67095d4a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![gwydion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/gwydion/32/14578_2.png) [@gwydion](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/gwydion)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/8 "2025-02-23T22:24:00Z")
Same, same. ![IMG_4344](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/0/0/003e1be256492c914ddb80aef21c5438e3d1f7e0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![DameCristy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/damecristy/32/3519_2.png) [@DameCristy](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/DameCristy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 10:26pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/9 "2025-02-23T22:26:57Z")
Well, now we know what weā€™d have to do to get Wahoo to listen! Or maybe we can get Valgren to put in a word? ---
**Author:** ![Isa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c68b51/32.png) [@Isa](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Isa)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2025, 11:59pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/10 "2025-02-23T23:59:26Z")
Being still nauseous today I decided today had to be my rest day. Your post confirms this was the correct decision. Tomorrow, onward šŸ„“ ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 12:37am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/11 "2025-02-24T00:37:31Z")
Rest hard, Dame @Isa!! ---
**Author:** ![supergrover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@supergrover](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/supergrover)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 2:45am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/13 "2025-02-24T02:45:35Z")
I noticed that right before the third over-under interval, Kim Cadzow tells us that she likes doing indoor training on her Wahoo setup in part because there is no freewheeling on the trainer. So what happens for the first 2.5 minutes? Weā€™re going 100%/90%/100% at 105%/95%/105% of FTP, and the EF riders are freewheeling down a long descent. I think they called that traumatic irony in English class. ---
**Author:** ![Rumpled](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b5a626/32.png) [@Rumpled](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Rumpled)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 5:13am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/14 "2025-02-24T05:13:46Z")
Stage 2 went much better for me. I did do a 10k run this morning in 80 degree heat. (SoCal winters are tough) After a bit of recovery, got on to the trainer. On a dumb trainer, this type of workout is much better; longer intervals and only really to do. Getting the right gearing and cadence to hit those targets is much easier than how Stage 1 was. Iā€™m not going nuclear, doing 80% to make sure I donā€™t actually die. ---
**Author:** ![titanicus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/titanicus/32/5265_2.png) [@titanicus](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/titanicus)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 6:23am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/15 "2025-02-24T06:23:31Z")
> [@supergrover](#): > > think they called that traumatic irony in English class I canā€™t tell if this is some super-high level joke that went over my head, but in my English class we called it _dramatic_ irony (the audience being aware of information that the character is not). ---
**Author:** ![Holger1980](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/holger1980/32/803_2.png) [@Holger1980](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Holger1980)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 8:09am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/16 "2025-02-24T08:09:23Z")
If you look at the subtitles closely, none of the riderā€™s names are misspelled, because actually they are all writers. šŸ¤£ ---
**Author:** ![Holger1980](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/holger1980/32/803_2.png) [@Holger1980](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Holger1980)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 8:10am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/17 "2025-02-24T08:10:43Z")
Exactly my thoughts. šŸ¤£ Must be that humor everyone talks about when visiting Sufferlandria. ---
**Author:** ![gwydion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/gwydion/32/14578_2.png) [@gwydion](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/gwydion)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 8:24am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/18 "2025-02-24T08:24:39Z")
Themā€™s the breaks, I mean, brakes. ---
**Author:** ![supergrover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@supergrover](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/supergrover)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 11:16am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/19 "2025-02-24T11:16:04Z")
No, just a bad pun! ---
**Author:** ![titanicus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/titanicus/32/5265_2.png) [@titanicus](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/titanicus)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 11:36am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/20 "2025-02-24T11:36:41Z")
Fair enough. Difficult to tell these days ā€¦ šŸ˜€ ---
**Author:** ![Heretic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/heretic/32/2329_2.png) [@Heretic](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Heretic)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2025, 4:17pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779/22 "2025-02-24T16:17:11Z")
If you notice, the transcribed audio in several places says writer instead of the speakerā€™s ā€œriderā€. So perhaps they are training in English literature? [Next page](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/the-2025-wahooligan-tour-stage-2-official-race-thread/27779.md?page=2)