# Training apps to supplement Sufferfest?

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**Category:** The Nine Hammers Tavern - General Chat\
**Created:** [March 12, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314 "2021-03-12T15:04:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/1 "2021-03-12T15:04:53Z")

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Good morning all.

Wondering if anyone uses outside apps to supplement Sufferfest? Not necessarily like a Zwift thing as an _alternative_, but good training or tracking apps that supplement your SUFFering? I’m thinking TrainerRoad, TrainingPeaks, Strava, etc.

Don’t know a lot about any of these, interested in any input, pluses/minuses, etc. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![ScottyCycles62](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/scottycycles62/32/11805_2.png) [@ScottyCycles62](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/ScottyCycles62)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/2 "2021-03-12T15:29:53Z")

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I use Training Peaks, WKO5 and EliteHRV and Whoop

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**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/3 "2021-03-12T15:31:35Z")

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GADS! 😳

Aside from Training Peaks, I’m not familiar. What do you get out of those others?

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**Author:** ![Heretic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/heretic/32/2329_2.png) [@Heretic](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Heretic)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/4 "2021-03-12T15:47:36Z")

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During the winter time when I cannot ride outside, and I wish to ride a simulation of an outside ride, I use Rouvy. I also use Training Peaks.

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**Author:** ![ScottyCycles62](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/scottycycles62/32/11805_2.png) [@ScottyCycles62](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/ScottyCycles62)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/5 "2021-03-12T15:48:50Z")

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WK05 lets you deep dive into the rabbit hole of power data. The others track your sleep, recovery, strain etc all things that can have an effect on your ability to train or perform on a given day.

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**Author:** ![FreshMoonDog](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/freshmoondog/32/3187_2.png) [@FreshMoonDog](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/FreshMoonDog)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 5:10pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/6 "2021-03-12T17:10:36Z")

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I use Strava because I do a good bit of other workouts that I do outside of Sufferfest and I use that to consolidate all of my training under one “umbrella”.

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**Author:** ![RichardK](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/richardk/32/658_2.png) [@RichardK](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/RichardK)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 5:19pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/7 "2021-03-12T17:19:21Z")

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Intervals.icu

Mostly used so I can see progress between tests, and to check what my stress load is if I get ill (so I can figure out what breaks me…)

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**Author:** ![lapingv755](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19b73/32.png) [@lapingv755](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/lapingv755)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 5:22pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/8 "2021-03-12T17:22:15Z")

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I use Golden Cheetah for all my rides, hikes and runs.  
You need to invest some time to adapt it to your needs, but it’s worth it.

Especially if you are into other sports, as it provides a TriScore for triathletes, or a more general TRIMP score (which i prefer).  
You can also get CTL, ATL and TSB from any of the above if you like these metrics.

What i find very interesting and i keep an eye on lately is W’ Balance.

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**Author:** ![Eerke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Eerke](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Eerke)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 6:23pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/9 "2021-03-12T18:23:23Z")

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‘Golden cheetah’ is free and does everything expensive software does, just in an uglier form and with bad instructions. There’s also no phone app.

I have the RGT app for indoor cycling racing because you can join races for free.

I’d just not pay for anything for cycling.

For swimming I use ‘ SwimSmooth Guru’. They can analyse your stroke from the sensors in an Apple Watch. I have bought a Platysens Marlin GPS sensor that is more accurate than a watch and synchronises with this app. No recurring fee though.

For running I use the, also free, Wahoo App. The Wahoo ‘TICKR X’ permits running dynamics but there’s no recurring fee.

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**Author:** ![ut-och-cykla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/a88e57/32.png) [@ut-och-cykla](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/ut-och-cykla)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/10 "2021-03-12T18:26:02Z")

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Strava to track all exercise and Final Surge linked to that to plan and keep track of time spent in zones

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**Author:** ![froekel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/froekel/32/3885_2.png) [@froekel](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/froekel)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/11 "2021-03-12T19:01:41Z")

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I plan my year in TrainingPeaks/wk05 and use that as my workout aggregator and stryd running power to monitor my running.

I sometimes dabble in golden cheetah as I’m a bit of a data nerd and love everything that can be shown in a graph. (Except pie charts, complete uselessness)

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**Author:** ![Heretic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/heretic/32/2329_2.png) [@Heretic](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Heretic)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 7:03pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/12 "2021-03-12T19:03:05Z")

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There is always, depending on your budget, a time vs. money tradeoff. Yes it is free, but you have to spend the time figuring it out.

At my point in life, time is generally worth more than money.

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**Author:** ![JSampson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/jsampson/32/3148_2.png) [@JSampson](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/JSampson)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/13 "2021-03-12T19:21:21Z")

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@CPT_A Strava for social, EliteHRV daily, Wahoo’s app and the Element Bolt for cycling and Suunto’s app for non-bike activities like running, weight lifting, etc. which is uploaded to Strava. I have also used intervals.icu in the past and might try it again.

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**Author:** ![emacdoug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/emacdoug/32/15557_2.png) [@emacdoug](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/emacdoug)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/14 "2021-03-12T19:32:22Z")

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Strava plus the Elevate app for Strava in Chrome (free).

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**Author:** ![ScottyCycles62](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/scottycycles62/32/11805_2.png) [@ScottyCycles62](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/ScottyCycles62)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 7:56pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/15 "2021-03-12T19:56:17Z")

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What does “Elevate” do?

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**Author:** ![emacdoug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/emacdoug/32/15557_2.png) [@emacdoug](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/emacdoug)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 8:07pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/16 "2021-03-12T20:07:10Z")

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Track all your activities together to get Fitness Trends and track stress, fitness, form, fatigue, etc. Progressions. Compare similar activities. Do deeper analysis, etc.

> **[Elevate for Strava](https://thomaschampagne.github.io/elevate/#/landing)**
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> Elevate your strava experience and goals! Elevate is a web extension which tracks your fitness and progressions over time. Analyse deeper your activities. And more...

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**Author:** ![Eerke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Eerke](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Eerke)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/17 "2021-03-12T20:12:16Z")

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Golden Cheetah isn’t that hard & after a short learning curve it it is more flexible than the commercial options.

RGT cycling is no more complicated than Strava. The Wahoo App isn’t as glossy as some alternatives but it as flexible as any of them.

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**Author:** ![CPT\_A](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cpt_a/32/15342_2.png) [@CPT\_A](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/CPT_A)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/18 "2021-03-12T20:16:33Z")

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My God we’re a bunch of nerds.

🤓

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**Author:** ![FKieser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/fkieser/32/1432_2.png) [@FKieser](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/FKieser)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 2:13am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/19 "2021-03-13T02:13:33Z")

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Intervals.icu  
Runalyze  
Strava  
Training Peaks

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**Author:** ![Sweatdaily](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/sweatdaily/32/2895_2.png) [@Sweatdaily](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Sweatdaily)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/training-apps-to-supplement-sufferfest/9314/20 "2021-03-13T14:50:35Z")

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TrainingPeaks for cycling, lifting, speed walking, Strava for cycling.

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