# Updated Primers Video **URL:** \ **Category:** SYSTM Content\ **Created:** [January 3, 2025, 9:29am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227 "2025-01-03T09:29:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![emacdoug](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/emacdoug/32/15557_2.png) [@emacdoug](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/emacdoug)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2025, 7:44pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/63 "2025-03-04T19:44:41Z")
I have a lot of other theories, but I’m going to keep them to myself and just keep showing a brave - if not somewhat anxiety-ridden - face. ![IMG_8682](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/a/a/aa70023999712c366eb7609548868b5fad8f4428.jpeg) ![RPReplay_Final1709134815_V2F_2024-02-28_07-41-17_172](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/a/9/a9ff48ccf0dff10702a20e11790280c171eef55c.jpeg) ![IMG_0316](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/2/b/2b2f1a37473e1a7c46024eecd0b73d5fcae1dfb0.jpeg) ![IMG_0208](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/3/0/3059ee06d73a97682def01ec3562fe15a9adbbae.jpeg) ![IMG_0089](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/f/a/fa7e12b6c896930526bd5fb4f671144b6c99e671.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![IsiSchneider\_KoS](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/isischneider_kos/32/23131_2.png) [@IsiSchneider\_KoS](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/IsiSchneider_KoS)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2025, 8:04pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/64 "2025-03-04T20:04:22Z")
> [@Chris\_H](#): > > > [@Heretic](#): > > > > then my reaction would be to not participate in the next Tour > > Exactly, I did so already this time. As a European, I‘m no longer willing to participate in a wahool\*\*n tour. I donated to an organisation providing helpful information for people with cancer in my country. more than you I did exactly the same, created my own ToS, (including a vintage loop) > **[Sufferlandria | Sufferlandrians | Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1GT8uK1WtN/)** > > Sufferlandrians > have you suffered today? > as I refuse to identify with an event for \*ooligans, Wa or not, I just finished an alternative route: > > Prologue (intended to be stage 1 but for obvious... and donated to a local charity HAIL SUFFERLANDRIA ---
**Author:** ![sir\_james.p](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/sir_james.p/32/18843_2.png) [@sir\_james.p](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/sir_james.p)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 11:17am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/65 "2025-03-11T11:17:08Z")
@Rupert going to keep pestering, I’m persistent. Can we get some feedback on the thought behind changes to primers and the broader toning down of the ‘SUFness’ of other remastered workouts. ---
**Author:** ![sir\_james.p](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/sir_james.p/32/18843_2.png) [@sir\_james.p](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/sir_james.p)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2025, 2:22pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/66 "2025-03-28T14:22:52Z")
@Rupert anything? ---
**Author:** ![Rupert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/rupert/32/22303_2.png) [@Rupert](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Rupert)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 4:29pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/67 "2025-04-02T16:29:10Z")
**Update to Primers:** We have now added a soundtrack to the Primers video as well as update the intro to remove the auctioning footage. ---
**Author:** ![sir\_james.p](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/sir_james.p/32/18843_2.png) [@sir\_james.p](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/sir_james.p)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2025, 5:07pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/68 "2025-04-02T17:07:03Z")
I have only watched the new primers once, now do it as a no vid and watch something interesting on Netflix, and can honestly say I do not recall the auction footage at all, so can’t of been engaging, but it appears we now have some more stock cycling footage, making this a real bland fest. I’ll continue watching Netflix or just put some music on. ---
**Author:** ![mdmnd9294](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/mdmnd9294/32/3015_2.png) [@mdmnd9294](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/mdmnd9294)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:02pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/69 "2025-04-05T19:02:28Z")
Just discovered this weirdness myself. I had “OG” Primers (red markup) in my All Purpose plan scheduled 2 months ago, and rode it in prep for the mid plan Half Monty. Went to ride it today in prep for tomorrow’s Full Frontal and it was unavailable. Found “New” Primers (green markup) searching the library. Same length, but new Wahoo tag. Strange that the schedule didn’t just pull the new Primers. I hope this isn’t a New Coke - Coke Classic debacle. ![1000009841](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/b/6/b6ee4496bfe5c5eb54e77974efb1dceaad04f338.png) ![1000009839](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/5/0/5091afead153c13d890f882bd446bc42ab6c2a10.png) ![1000009840](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/a/7/a72db01a0bca114536e430e75a12866796977c05.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/70 "2025-04-05T19:05:43Z")
If you had the OG Primers downloaded, you’ll no longer be able to access it. They say it’s because of expired licenses. I call YS on that. ---
**Author:** ![titanicus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/titanicus/32/5265_2.png) [@titanicus](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/titanicus)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:59pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/71 "2025-04-05T19:59:24Z")
Exactly the same thing for me 🙁 ---
**Author:** ![Cheryl.Vasan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/cheryl.vasan/32/22810_2.png) [@Cheryl.Vasan](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Cheryl.Vasan)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 10:13pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/72 "2025-04-05T22:13:14Z")
I rode the new one Friday. I found the recovery music as annoying as the Baby Shark song. I wanted to bash my head into the wall, although that’s not what I would usually call a head-banging tune. It just kept going and going and going. So meh. I was anti-primed for my quest. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/thesufferfest/original/3X/f/e/fe2cf350860307768e8f1da1c930e2146d8ff30a.jpeg "Baby Shark Dance | #babyshark Most Viewed Video | Animal Songs | PINKFONG Songs for Children") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqZsoesa55w) ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 11:08pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/73 "2025-04-05T23:08:51Z")
Boo to wahoo for completely destroying a perfectly good primers vid. ---
**Author:** ![sir\_james.p](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/sir_james.p/32/18843_2.png) [@sir\_james.p](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/sir_james.p)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 6:26am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/74 "2025-04-06T06:26:43Z")
I consider primers a no vid now. Just put some decent music on. ---
**Author:** ![Heretic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/heretic/32/2329_2.png) [@Heretic](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Heretic)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 1:55pm UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/75 "2025-04-06T13:55:04Z")
I have used “No Place Like Home” instead of Primers. ---
**Author:** ![Glen.Coutts](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/glen.coutts/32/25318_2.png) [@Glen.Coutts](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/u/Glen.Coutts)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2025, 1:42am UTC](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227/76 "2025-05-20T01:42:40Z")
FYI and ICYMI, The Company is now seeking our feeback on Primers and other de-SUFed content: > [@Sufferfest remasters](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/sufferfest-remasters/29100): > > There’s been quite a bit of conversation lately about the remastering of some beloved Sufferfest videos. Even the laser goats had something to say, staging a roadside protest during the Giro. [[When Goats attack - cyclists edition] ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1BNaQ0EueE) We would like to provide some background related to our recent remastering project. In response to an unexpected end to a licensing agreement, we have had to quickly update some of our videos. The alternative would have been to remove the videos from our … [Previous page](https://wahoox.forum.wahoofitness.com/t/updated-primers-video/27227.md?page=3)