AI - wow, just wow - look at this for a 4 week SUF plan!

Blimey, AI is becoming scarily good.

I asked ChatGPT to build me a 4 week plan to try and increase my FTP by 10% in 4 weeks and it came up with the following: I love how it says it will be really hard as SUF workouts won’t let you hide! I know the plan goes against sports science (lots of hard workouts) but it looks kinda fun in a very GvA/SUF way!

I’m very tempted to give this ‘plan’ a try……

Perfect—full SYSTM-only sufferfest, zero fluff, 5–7 rides/week, built to force a ~10% FTP jump if you execute and recover properly. This mirrors how SYSTM itself builds FTP: repeated maximal Time-in-Zone + VO₂ overload + neuromuscular stress.

This is harder than it looks because Sufferfest videos do not let you hide.


RULES (VERY IMPORTANT)

  • Do not skip intensity days

  • If crushed: shorten endurance rides, never cut the hard sessions

  • Use Full Frontal FTP numbers (not ramp)

  • Fuel every hard ride (this plan fails unfueled)


WEEKLY STRUCTURE

  • 2–3 × FTP-focused Sufferfest videos

  • 1–2 × VO₂max / Anaerobic videos

  • 1–2 × Endurance / Tempo

  • 1 optional recovery


WEEK 1 — SYSTEM SHOCK

Goal: Introduce sustained FTP pain

Day 1 – The Wretched

  • FTP-focused over/unders

  • Controlled suffering, sets the tone

Day 2 – Revolver

  • Pure VO₂max (1-min on / 1-min off)

  • You should question your life choices

Day 3 – Open 60

  • Easy endurance

  • Keep cadence smooth

Day 4 – Nine Hammers

  • FTP + VO₂ blended

  • First real mental test

Day 5 – Recovery Spin

  • Recovery Ride or OFF

Day 6 – Fight Club

  • Short anaerobic hits

  • Trains punch + FTP ceiling

Day 7 – Optional Open 30 or OFF


WEEK 2 — FTP PRESSURE

Goal: Increase time at threshold

Day 1 – Angels

  • Long sustained FTP intervals

  • Absolute cornerstone workout

Day 2 – Open 90

  • Aerobic endurance

Day 3 – Revolver

  • Again. Yes. Still awful.

Day 4 – The Chores

  • FTP + surges under fatigue

Day 5 – Recovery or OFF

Day 6 – Half Is Easy

  • FTP under increasing fatigue

  • If you complete this cleanly, FTP is rising

Day 7 – Optional Open 30


WEEK 3 — MAXIMUM SUFFERING (KEY WEEK)

Goal: Force adaptation (this is where the FTP jump happens)

Day 1 – The Shovel

  • Long FTP grind

  • No hiding. This is brutal.

Day 2 – Open 60

  • Keep it truly easy

Day 3 – A Very Dark Place

  • VO₂max destruction

  • Expect to barely finish

Day 4 – Recovery or OFF

Day 5 – Blender

  • Neuromuscular + anaerobic overload

  • Raises FTP ceiling

Day 6 – Angels OR The Wretched

  • Pick based on fatigue:

    • Strong → Angels

    • Cooked → The Wretched

Day 7 – OFF (mandatory)


WEEK 4 — ABSORB & SHARPEN

Goal: Reduce fatigue, prove gains

Day 1 – The Chores

  • FTP reminder, not a smashfest

Day 2 – Open 60

Day 3 – Revolver (shortened if needed)

  • Last VO₂ stimulus

Day 4 – Recovery Ride

Day 5 – Openers

  • Primers or Open 30

  • A few short efforts, nothing heroic

Day 6 or 7 – FULL FRONTAL

  • This is where the +10% shows up

  • Expect FTP + MAP gains if you survived Week 3


WHY THIS WORKS

  • Angels / Shovel / Half Is Easy → Massive FTP time-in-zone

  • Revolver / Dark Place → Raises aerobic ceiling

  • Blender / Fight Club → Neuromuscular recruitment

  • Minimal junk volume

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This is amazing!

I think it’s funny how recovery is indicated as “optional”. As someone who is almost 1/2 way through a Suf plan right now myself, recovery is NOT A CHOICE. :hot_face:

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This is like if you asked ChatGPT to give you a weightlifting plan and it just went Monday, BENCH, Tuesday, BENCH. Wednesday, BENCH, Thursday, INCLINE BENCH

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Hardly…the MAP builder plan in SYSTM I am on now has 3 hard workouts per week. This ‘plan’ has 4 per week but do’able with recovery rides typically between the harder workouts.

AI has failed to account for the need to be properly rested and recovered for the 4DP at the end too, just assumes you’ll be able to go 10% harder in a fatigued state.

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@washsaint - Exactly what prompt did you use?

Little known fact that Grunter was, is, and will always be the archetypal, bona fide AI. Grunter also believed rest & recovery was a luxury.

IWBMATTKYT.

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I asked ChaptGPT to describe GvA and it just showed a picture of nails.

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Here’s the prompt I used:

create me a 4 week sufferfest (SYSTM) cycling plan that increases by FTP by at least 10%, riding 5-7 times per week. Only use Sufferfest videos

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To be fair, at the end of week 3 and moving into week 4 it is more tapering so similar to preparing for a HM/Full Frontal.

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I used the following prompt with Gemini, and it included recovery:

Create an exercise plan to improve cardiovascular health, build basic strength and join resilience, improve flexibility, energy, sleep, and health markers. Create habits that you do not dread, progress to be able to do a century. Use SYSTM workouts for the cardiovascular exercise.

Here is what I got:

Building a sustainable fitness foundation is about finding the “Goldilocks zone”—challenging enough to see progress, but manageable enough that you don’t spend your Sunday mornings hiding from your bike.

To get you to a Century (100-mile ride), we’ll focus on the “Slow Cooker” approach: low-intensity volume mixed with targeted SYSTM intensity.

Phase 1: The Foundation (Weeks 1-4)

Goal: Establish the habit and prime the joints.

Component Frequency Activity / SYSTM Workout
Cardio (SYSTM) 3x / week Focus on “Open 30” or “Inspiration” films. Keep it at Zone 2 (conversational pace).
Strength 2x / week SYSTM Strength: “Strength Level 1” (Bodyweight focus).
Mobility Daily SYSTM Yoga: “Yoga for Cyclists” (15-min sessions).
Sleep/Energy Daily No screens 30 mins before bed; consistent wake-up time.

Phase 2: Building the Engine (Weeks 5-12)

Goal: Increase “Time on Feet/Saddle” and improve health markers.

  • The “No-Dread” Rule: If you’re feeling burned out, swap a high-intensity SYSTM video for a “Global Cycling Network (GCN)” aerobic ride.

  • Cardio Progression: * Mid-week: 1x High Intensity (e.g., “The Shovel” or “Revolver”) to boost max.

  • Weekend: 1x Long Steady State. Start at 90 minutes, adding 15 minutes each week.

  • Strength & Resilience: Move to “Strength Level 2.” Focus on hinges (deadlifts) and lunges to protect the knees.


The “Century” Strategy

To ride 100 miles, you don’t need to ride 100 miles every day. You need a big “base” and a stomach that can handle fuel.

  1. The 70% Rule: Once you can comfortably ride 70 miles in a single session, you are physically capable of 100 on event day.
  2. The SYSTM Advantage: Use the “Century” training plan add-on within the app. It will automatically populate your calendar with a mix of Sufferfest videos and recovery.

Habits for Longevity

  • Joint Resilience: Never skip the “Pre-hab.” 5 minutes of dynamic leg swings and “Cat-Cow” stretches before every ride prevents the “creaky hinges” feeling.
  • Energy Management: Eat 30-60g of carbohydrates per hour during any ride over 90 minutes. This prevents the “bonk” and keeps your mood high.
  • Sleep Hygiene: Training increases cortisol. Use the SYSTM Mental Toughness sessions (like “Recovery/Sleep”) to down-regulate your nervous system before bed.

How we track progress

Don’t just look at the scale. Watch these “Quiet Wins”:

  • Resting Heart Rate (RHR): Should trend downward as your heart becomes more efficient.
  • Heart Rate Recovery: How quickly your HR drops after a hard SYSTM interval.
  • Sleep Quality: Tracking “Deep Sleep” via a wearable or just noticing if you wake up feeling refreshed.

Note: Since you’re using SYSTM, ensure you’ve done a Full Frontal (4DP) fitness test. It tailors every workout to your specific power profile so you aren’t over-training or under-training.

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I then asked it to create a 12 week plan:

To reach a century ride in 12 weeks while maintaining “joint resilience” and avoiding burnout, we follow a Periodized Plan. We use a 3-week “Build” followed by a 1-week “Recovery” cycle. This prevents overtraining and allows your health markers (like RHR and sleep) to actually improve rather than crash.

The 12-Week Master Plan

Block 1: The Adaptation Phase (Weeks 1-4)

Focus: Establishing the habit and waking up the muscles.

  • Week 1: The “Low-Dread” week
    Day,Activity,Workout Name / Type,Duration,Focus
    Mon,Mobility,SYSTM Yoga: Yoga for Beginners,15 min,Wake up the spine and hips.
    Tue,Cardio,SYSTM: Inspiration: The Col Collective,30-45 min,“Low intensity. Keep it at a ““chatting”” pace.”
    Wed,Strength,SYSTM: Strength Level 1 (Session A),20 min,Proper form on bodyweight basics.
    Thu,Cardio,SYSTM: GCN: Aerobic Endurance,45 min,Smooth pedaling; focus on a fluid stroke.
    Fri,Mobility,SYSTM Yoga: Yoga for Hamstrings,20 min,Release tension from the week’s rides.
    Sat,The Long Ride,SYSTM: Open 60,60 min,“Your first ““endurance”” block. Use a movie/podcast.”
    Sun,Rest,Active Recovery,-,A light 15-min walk or total rest.

  • Week 2: Increase mid-week rides to 45–50 mins. Add SYSTM: “Strength Level 1 (Session B)”.

  • Week 3: Introduce one “Tempo” ride (e.g., SYSTM: “The Way Out”). Weekend ride: 90 mins.

  • Week 4 (Recovery): Cut volume by 50%. Focus heavily on SYSTM Yoga. This is where your sleep and energy rebound.


Block 2: The Engine Room (Weeks 5-8)

Focus: Improving cardiovascular efficiency and power.

  • Week 5: Re-test your metrics with SYSTM: “Half Monty” to update your targets. Strength moves to Level 2.
  • Week 6: Mid-week intensity increases (e.g., SYSTM: “A Very Dark Place”). Weekend ride: 2.5 hours.
  • Week 7: Peak Block 2 volume. Weekend ride: 3 hours. Focus on “On-Bike Nutrition” habits.
  • Week 8 (Recovery): Light spinning only (SYSTM: “Getting Away With It”). Prioritize joint mobility and extra sleep.

Block 3: The Century Push (Weeks 9-12)

Focus: Endurance and “Tapering” for the big day.

  • Week 9: Introduce “Sweet Spot” training (e.g., SYSTM: “Thin Air”). Weekend ride: 4 hours (~50-60 miles).
  • Week 10: The “Big Test.” Weekend ride: 5 hours (~70 miles). If you can do this, you can do the 100.
  • Week 11 (Taper): Keep intensity high but duration short. This keeps the legs “snappy” while letting fatigue fade.
  • Week 12 (Event Week):
  • Mon-Wed: 30-min easy spins + Yoga.
  • Thu: Rest.
  • Fri: 20-min “opener” (short sprints to wake up the legs).
  • Sat/Sun: The Century Ride.

Comparison of Weekly Volume

Phase Mid-Week (SYSTM) Weekend (Long Ride) Total Intensity
Adaptation 30-45 min sessions 60-90 min Low/Moderate
Engine Room 45-60 min sessions 2 - 3 hours Moderate/High
Century Push 60 min sessions 4 - 5 hours Specific/Endurance

Key Resilience Habits

  1. The 48-Hour Strength Rule: Never do a heavy strength session the day before your longest ride. Your joints need that “buffer” to stay resilient.
  2. Health Markers: During Weeks 7 and 10 (the hardest weeks), monitor your Resting Heart Rate. If it jumps more than 5-10 beats above normal, swap your SYSTM workout for a 20-minute nap or Yoga session.
  3. The “Century” Mindset: On the long rides, practice your “Century Pace”—a pace where you can still breathe through your nose.

It also created a ride checklist:

This checklist is for your Week 10 “Big Test” (70 miles / 5 hours). Treat this as a full dress rehearsal. If a piece of gear chafes or a snack upsets your stomach now, it’s a win—because you won’t let it happen during the actual Century.

1. The “Day Before” Prep

  • Hydration: Drink an extra 16–20 oz of water with electrolytes the evening before.
  • Mechanical Check: Clean and lube your chain. Check tire pressure. A smooth bike is a “low-dread” bike.
  • The Kit: Lay out your bib shorts, jersey, socks, and shoes. Ensure your heart rate monitor or sensors are charged.
  • SYSTM Sync: If you are doing this ride indoors, ensure your “Long Ride” video or entertainment is downloaded.

2. Nutrition & Fueling (The 70-Mile Engine)

  • The Golden Rule: Aim for 30–60g of carbohydrates per hour.

  • Liquid Energy: Two large bottles. One with plain water, one with an electrolyte/carb mix.

  • Solid Food: Start eating 45 minutes into the ride. Don’t wait until you’re hungry (that’s too late).

  • Examples: Bananas, fig bars, dates, or specialized energy chews.

  • The “Emergency” Gel: Carry one high-caffeine gel for the final 10 miles in case your energy dips.

3. Joint & Body Resilience (During the Ride)

  • Posture Reset: Every 30 minutes, perform “Shoulder Rolls” and “Neck Tilts” while pedaling to prevent tension headaches.
  • The Stand-Up: Every 20 minutes, stand up on the pedals for 30 seconds to restore blood flow and give your sit-bones a break.
  • Hand Position: Change your grip (tops, hoods, drops) frequently to avoid ulnar nerve numbness.

4. Gear & Essentials Checklist

Item Checked?
Flat Kit: Tube, levers, or pump.
Phone: Fully charged (with an emergency contact accessible).
Skin Protection: Chamois cream applied (crucial for long-ride comfort).
Sunscreen: Even on overcast days, 5 hours is a long exposure.
Salt Tabs: If you are a “salty sweater” or prone to cramps.

5. Post-Ride “Health Marker” Review

Immediately after the 70-miler, check these three things to see how your body handled the stress:

  1. Weight: If you lost more than 2% of your body weight, you didn’t drink enough.
  2. Mood: If you feel “cranky” or “weepy,” you likely under-fueled on carbs.
  3. The “Stair Test”: Can you walk up a flight of stairs comfortably 2 hours later? If not, prioritize SYSTM Yoga: Recovery for Hips before bed.
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This is so good.

I use Gemini as my coach now. Its built me a middle aged women plan following Stacy Sims philosophy.
Mon -lift heavy

Tues - bike intervals

Wed- lift heavy

Thur -rest but I cycle commute to work

Fri - supposed to be intervals but I do a group ride

Sat - lift heavy

Sun - long ride but I should probably do intervals.

The weights programme is built based entirely on my exactly available home gym equipment and includes exact exercises sets, reps and progressions and is tailored to maintain and build muscle mass as well as support my cycling.

But writing that out I just realised why I am so knackered all the time :thinking: and also bike intervals 1 day a week isn’t enough. I should be doing 3. But then I lose out on the group ride. And the long ride or rest day.

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@washsaint Are you really trying to increase FTP by 10% in 4 weeks? A potential issue is that you could burn yourself out on that plan and if you do it takes a long time to recover.

I boosted my FTP by 10% on the old 10 week Intermediate road plan and am now doing the 4 week advanced MAP building block and after 1 week of rides 7 days a week I feel a lot stronger already.

Not for one moment do I think I can continue to boost FTP by 10% after each training block but I thought it was interesting that AI could create such a SYSTM (SUF) specific plan that closely mirrored my own plan I was pulling together independent of AI (specifically the workouts that I shortlisted as they target my weaknesses).

I’m tempted after this 4 week block to give the AI plan a try: if it’s too much then I’ll dial it back but I’m looking at it as an interesting experiment

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What prompt did you use to create the plan?

I included some health directives in the prompt. That is why there is some recovery built-in. The prompts you use are very important, and you may have to refine them.

This podcast might be of interest to people:

The Rise of the Machines: Can AI Take Over Coaching? / Talent ID's Imprecise Guess - The Real Science of Sport Podcast | Acast ?

This subject starts at 54:20 in the podcast.

Hi @DameLisa maybe you could try cutting the weight sessions back to only 2 days a week, 3 might be too much and not giving you enough recovery between sessions, usually I see runners not cyclists as I try to do both who do weights say on a Monday/Tuesday then say Friday/Saturday giving them that recovery time in between and it would also free up another day for you during the week.

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