On the way to FTP 300 – beyond the glass ceiling?

Last year, I started training in a structured way for the first time – and I set myself a specific goal straight away: the Club de Cinglés (3x Mont Ventoux/1d)

Club de Cinglés

That’s how I discovered the Full Frontal (FF) and the Nine Hammers – and I was hooked.

After the Cinglés, I didn’t really have a clear goal to aim for. So I simply worked my way through the All the Sufferfest Award. That’s when I came up with an idea for my own personal Cinglés: I want to achieve an FTP of 300W in the Full Frontal.

You need to bear in mind: I’m over 50, have a family and work full-time. And I’ve no desire to live like an ascetic.

The first attempts

I did my first FF on 15 June 25. I had to stop after the MAP section.

A disaster. I completely overestimated my abilities and started far too quickly.

After that, I was wiser.

A few days later.

By September 2025, I’d worked my way up to 242W. After the Cinglés, it was 249W.

Then came the dip in motivation. My brother, however, had a new idea: a cyclo-cross race in March. To prepare for it, I trained with various MAP sessions and laps in the woods.

Nine Hammers is a walk in the park

The cyclocrossrace (hobby event) was a disaster by my own standards. :slightly_smiling_face:

What an ordeal! An hour of burning legs, burning lungs, lactate galore. Nine Hammers, by comparison, was a walk in the park. Wellness!

I didn’t actually think my performance was that bad. But no matter how well I rode on a lap thanks to my good technique, I kept getting overtaken on two gruelling climbs.

One thing was clear: I’ll be going back next year – and I don’t want to lose so much ground on those climbs again.

My quick analysis pointed to two options: lose weight or increase my FTP.

Starving myself is out of the question. So the plan was clear: I need a higher FTP.

My goal: 300W by the end of the year – or by February at the latest.

Four to five hours a week

During the week, I manage four to five hours of training time. That’s as much as I can manage. When things went well, my training week looked like this:

  • A MAP workout before work (indoor)
  • An FTP workout before work (indoor)
  • A Zone 2 session outdoors at the weekend

That added up to four to five hours. And it went well. Very well, in fact.

I used the ‘Go Beyond FTP’ plan and put together the appropriate Sufferfest workouts myself on a freestyle basis.

By June, my FTP was already at 273W. From 256W in March to 273W in June – an increase of 17 W in three months!

I hadn’t expected that. I thought: ‘Reaching 300W will be a piece of cake now.’

I was convinced that I’d reach 300 more easily if I focused exclusively on my FTP. So I had the AI draw up a training plan for me.

F… the AI!

In any case, the next two months consisted almost entirely of FTP and Zone 2. Sessions like 2×15, 2×20, 3×15 and so on.

The result? Disappointing.

The setback

In August, I did the next FF. And what happened?

The 20-minute FTP session absolutely wrecked me. By the end, my FTP had suddenly dropped: 266W. Seven watts less!

Yet all my other figures had continued to improve: NM: +24, AC: +4, MAP: +4

That was quite a blow.

What was particularly interesting was the effect it had on my motivation. I was deeply disappointed and suddenly 300W seemed out of reach.

Am I too old? Is there an upper limit? A glass ceiling at perhaps 280W?

I thought about it for a while and set myself a new interim target: 280W. Then we’ll see.

This time, I went back to the tried-and-tested method instead of relying on AI: MAP + FTP + Zone 2:

The improvements at a glance:

NM: +27, AC: +23, MAP: +7, FTP: +13

Once again, I saw improvements across the board. And once again, it became clear just how closely performance and motivation are linked: I’m elated. :slightly_smiling_face:

Suddenly, 300W is within reach again. That invisible 280W barrier has vanished from my mind.

And now for 300W?

Let’s see if and when I can hit 300W.

The next cx-race is coming up in March. After that, the next goal is already waiting: the Flandrien Challenge in May.

My brother and I want to ride all the segments in Flanders within three days: 400 km and 4,800 metres of elevation gain.

But for now, the focus is on 300W. What do you think?

Should I stick with the tried-and-tested mix of MAP, FTP and Zone 2?

Where do you see room for improvement, given that I have to make do with four to five hours of training a week?

Is 300W realistic, or will I actually hit a physiological limit at some point?

I’m currently only 21W short – just under 6%.

So the question isn’t just whether 300W is possible, but how I can achieve it without completely subordinating my life to training.

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I admire your thoughtful mix of measurable indoor goals and outdoor challenges. The MAP, FTP, zone 2 is consistent with coaching advice that I have read about and received. Perhaps if you could squeeze in one day of weight training, it might push your performance that last little bit. There is lots information about weight training for cyclists out there.

Good luck!

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Impressive progress already towards your lofty goal — well done!

Here’s some advice from someone who’s over 65, has never hit an ftp of 300, but still gets some decent results.

  • Sometimes less is more, so maybe pull back some time on the bike and use it for strength training. In simple terms, bigger muscles can be trained to produced more power. This takes time though… minimum of 2 months.
  • Consider whether you might benefit from the mental training program. It’s not for everyone, but it might help you get the focus you meed during the sustained ftp efforts.
  • Make sure you’re getting adequate rest and recovery. I didn’t see this in your comments. If you keep going full blast with no meaningful breaks, I guarantee you’ll burn out and then you’ll struggle to achieve even 80% of your current numbers. Plan your training year in cycles where there are ebbs and flows in your output.
  • Different types of events/courses emphasize different forms of energy. I’ve done cx for 4 years. It places high demands on MAP and AC (and skills). A good ftp doesn’t contribute that much to success in cx, but conversely, by raising your MAP, you create room to improve your ftp.
  • Remember, nobody was ever awarded a podium position just for having the best power numbers. While it’s good to have targets to chase in your training, keep doing events and hone your ability to race and achieve results. I take pride in beating people who are much younger or stronger than me by racing smarter and applying my tools when it really counts.
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@wmalexmann
Strength training for cyclists is definitely a good tip. I’ll make sure to incorporate that.:+1:
@Steve_Q
Thanks to you too for the tips. I certainly had to learn that recovery and breaks are important. And I still find it hard to ride slowly. :slightly_smiling_face:
But don’t worry, FTP isn’t my be-all and end-all. The 300 is just a personal goal, given the lack of competitive opportunities.
Now that I’m over 50, it’s perhaps more age-appropriate to test my own limits rather than compete with younger riders. After all, my bones aren’t getting any stronger. :wink:
But as I’m writing this, my brother’s got in touch with a date for a cx/gravel race in early November. (And: A good opportunity to get motivated for ‘The 64 (Violator)’. My final workout for the All Speed Award. :slight_smile: It goes down a treat with cross.)

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I also agree on the less is more.

Switching to an ebike for my commutes leaves me fresh enough for my workouts to be properly hard. What this might be in your case is making sure your Z2 work is really Z2 work and you’re not sneaking tempo in there, I know I’m guilty of that.

For me, working on MAP was the thing that helped me kick my FTP over that same arbitrary threshold; my MAP was 117% of my FTP at the start of my big indoor training block. Now it’s 124% of FTP, even though both numbers went up.

I had similar success during the pandemic working on my indoor rowing performance - I PR’d my 5K (18:43, so same ballpark duration as a FTP test) right after finishing a 2K training block (got a 7:02, so close to the MAP test).

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