I think Suf should consider real customisation depending on riders’ performance based on the each individual’s HR, power target performance and his/her ability to keep up with the program. Some algorithms can be created I supposed based on wealth of data you guys have. I believe the current customis…

Where to begin? This could be quite long but I’ll keep it short but ultimately, I disagree. Why? Firstly, HR is too variable. If you are, say, doing a long interval at, say, 250W and are feeling good and your HR slowly rises and stabilises at, say 160bpm. If you were to do the exact same power and …

I appreciate what @fairushariri is saying. The metric updates are a little static. In zwift if you do a race faster than you have ever done before it will update your FTP. It would be good if in SUF some videos could be used to test specific metrics. I appreciate HR is variable but this is a techn…

I agree on HR being too unpredictable as a solid metric to base any changes on. But I would have thought power could be used to tweak 4DP values dynamically. I haven’t used it myself, but Xert uses power to dynamically adjust FTP without any formal testing and appears to be well regarded. Zwift Powe…

You’re right @Peteski . My HRM context may be slightly taken out of proportion. For instance, Power and cadence target could be the main parameter that can be leveraged. Even if the HRM isn’t accurate and subject to environmental and other condition, there must be some weightage that can be applied …

The biggest problem with this, though, is that Sufferfest is an exercise system, not an entertainment system. It matters little in Zwift if it adjusts your FTP day-to-day, especially if you’re not using a training plan. The biggest problem is that performance is variable. You can even out some of…

Has anyone had any experience using Xert? Since they are employing exactly the kind of dynamic metric analysis being discussed here. Personally I’m happy with the static approach, but it does make the tests ultra-critical for each following training block. Having to re-test 4DP is no joke!

just registered as it looks promising. And always open to trying out something new and evolving!

[image] Sufferlandrians using Xert to track fitness? Training I train with The Sufferfest Training Plans and I find that Xert is a good tool to track your fitness history. Sometimes I have a breakthrough on workouts like The Tool Shed, The Shovel or Violator (sounds obvio…

@Peteski @dean802 I had the opportunity to explore xert the last few days and I think what they are doing is exactly what I have in mind! This could be one unpopular comment - I guess the bigger question here is, if xert can do it why can’t suf? Both apps (in fact all training app/program) are usin…

I don’t think it’s that easy to do. Suf will have to hire a couple of specialist data scientists (if they don’t already have any) to build the kind of models that can make it work successfully. Also, data science is as much of an art as it is a science. Not saying that it’s impossible, but it will b…

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