Can I add a bit more.
What do you call a soluble cow?
Heifervescent.
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Nope.
We love our cheese. It’s best with a bit of whine, brought about through much Suffering.
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Mmmmmmm grilled cheese.
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I love all the cheese from the lactic acid yaks but I understand your point. I’ve tired to explain some of the jokes and narratives to my girlfriend, who says all of that would just drive her nuts. She especially rolled her eyes at my description of butter. But butter has been one of my favorites so far. Elements of style and anything with mike cotty too.
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The dry humor and jokes always come at the right time for me - and give me a momentary distraction from the pain and suffering - More laser goats please!
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Personally, the humor that I do not like I can easily ignore.
There is one piece of music that some might find offensive although I wonder if anyone noticed.
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Certainly not the selection from Quiet Company?
(I forgot which it was and on which video, as I mute music on all videos these days. But am thrilled SUF used a local [for me & my Texas self], lesser-known-but-wholly-worthy band for us to Suffer by.)
No it is not.
The lyrics are not in English.
I’m intrigued but I don’t think you should tell (unless the minions ask you).
I vote for some fun to break up the “head in a bucket, heart in throat” efforts that some of these workouts deliver! Love this App!!
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Glad to see this hasn’t devolved into mud-slinging that is typical of most of the web.
Basically, I will say more of the same. I love the humor. Some of it makes my roll my eyes while some of it makes me laugh even when I’m chewing stem and can barely breathe.
But, yeah. Music, humor, and cheese is always an individual thing. So, if you don’t enjoy it or wish it was toned down, there’s nothing wrong with that. And if you love the workouts, but not the rest of the stuff, you have a number of options including turning the music on/off, adding your own music in the background, using the mini-player and ignoring the videos you don’t like, using no-vids, etc.
Hopefully these help because, you know… you can never leave.
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I wish the comments were more supportive, like ‘good job’ and ‘you’ve got this’.
It’s like basic management…people respond better to positive reinforcement than negative.
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Once I discovered the awesomeness that is Joyride, my mantra has been “Moar Cheese!” 
Give The Bat a try.
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Love this discussion. You all rock.
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At first I though that SUF´s humor kind of childish…then I did the “9 Hammers” and lost my capacity to smile for a while.
Then I did some workouts like “Butter” and I lost my appetite for butter. Now I eat less and less butter.
Then, I did “G.O.A.T” and I though, no other training app has Laser Goats…huh…that is unique.
I took me some time to understand who is Gunter and why he was not displayed at the start page of the app.
Lesson learnt…I started having fun with the app and the humor when I start having no expectations on what to see and listen during the workouts. It is even funnier when I try to explain the jokes to my non-cyclist friends…
The only complaint point I have is that I was expecting that a laser goat would show up on my screen the moment my power targets get low. Need some improvement here.
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- You not peddling hard enough if you notice the humour… heheh…
- English humour…
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The humour is good. The last thing I want is something serious! I mean interval training is serious enough as it is and needs the piss taking to make it more bearable. SUF videos hit the spot for me and I love the workout descriptions too. Science made funny!
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It’s “gouda” 
I think the other piece I would add to all the pieces above (which I agree with), is that as someone who has been heavily into all forms of competitive sports my entire life I really really appreciate the lack of bro-y-ness in the Sufferfest.
I have played with and competed against phenomenal athletes, and one constant I have found is that high levels of sporting achievement and competition tend to correlate with hyper self-congratulatory and “dominating the other team” narratives.
It’s precisely the lack of ego and hubris that I find so refreshing in The Sufferfest. Creating a narrative based almost entirely around self-suffering, self-improvement, and “doing it for the nation” is very very different than the “crush the other person” approach that all my least favorite coaches took.
As a mid-thirties pretty casual biker (never raced, might never race, love exploring gravel roads and windy roads through natural beauty on my bike) I am constantly humbled and awed by the range of athlete types on Sufferfest. I find it inspirational (from a “I could keep doing this for 40 more years and not be as good as some of the Legend riders on Sufferfest” perspective), and also that it creates a very different type of community vibe here. I think the 4DP concept that “this is as hard as it can be for me, and that everyone else feels it just as hard because of their 4DP” makes a training equity here that I love. It is the great leveller. Every other ToS or KoS finisher felt the same as me, regardless of their numbers.
Humor to me is a huge cornerstone of what makes that possible. The core focus here is IWBMATTKYT - not “I am better than you”.Sufferfest’s ability to push you to your absolute max, and then also make you laugh because shark’s can’t use a screwdriver. I never want this platform to change, and I hope that I’ll still be here boring newbies about the time Sir @David.McQuillen.KoS wore a goat suit ten years from now.
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