What are HARD rides?

[Critmark]

Anyone have any insight as to what the program considers a “hard ride”? When I logged on today it said I had done 'less that two hard workouts in the last 7 days". More often than not it says I HAVE done more than 2 and offers me an easy ride. This was a first.

Here are the rides I did of consequence in the past 7 days:
ProRides: Ride London 1
On Location: French Pyrenees: Cirque de Gavarnie
On Location: Galicia: Camarinas to Muxia

My guess is they don’t consider the On Location rides as hard. Yet what they offered me as a hard ride to do today is Cash Register 32m/0.86IF/40 TSS.

The two On Location rides are 51m/0.79 IF/54 TSS & 1h.8m/0.72 IF & 59 TSS. It must be the IF as the sole determinant since both the time and TSS are higher than Cash Register.

Just talking out loud!

[sir_james.p]

I have given up trying to make sense of that feature, it’s pretty useless.

[Critmark]

You only say that because it’s true!!

[emacdoug]

I was thinking the same thing, this morning.

I’d completed 6 Sufferfest workouts in the past 7 days, 4 of them at 100% intensity.

And yet, I was told, “You have done less that two hard workouts in the last 7 days”.

I was like…

[Critmark]

@emacdoug Sir Evan, you probably did some Sufferfest ‘remastered’ versions where they completely neutered the ride. In that case, they don’t think they are hard any more!

[emacdoug]

If you are referring to the workouts that Sir Neal helped tone down, then they should still count as Hard Rides, especially compared to the No-Vids that I keep getting recommended.

I also Did Rue the Day and Team Scream. If Team Scream isn’t a hard ride then the only way to get a hard ride is to do 9H and turn it up to 111%.

[Critmark]

@emacdoug

If Team Scream isn’t a hard ride then the only way to get a hard ride is to do 9H and turn it up to 111%

Don’t shoot the messenger. I wasn’t the one that programmed the damn thing!

[emacdoug]

Just agreeing with you. If Sufferfest workouts at 100% aren’t considered hard workouts then the algorithm has serious problems.

[Critmark]

@emacdoug

Just agreeing with you.

I know. Just illustrating the stupidity of the whole thing. That said, 9H at 111% does sound like a ride!

[emacdoug]

[emacdoug]

[Critmark]

Sir Evan, you have given me a great idea. And by great, I mean, “are you out of your F-ing mind” great. I will begin a new post shortly.

[emacdoug]

My SUF senses are tingling. This will surely be fantastic! And by fantastic I mean aweful and painful.

[Critmark]

Sir Evan, here is the manifest of your spark of inspiration: Calling all Knights! - A challenge of EPIC proportions!

[donut_boy]

Mine does the same, though I think because it isn’t taking account of TSS from outside rides I’ve done previously, it just seems to be ignoring them.

It always suggests a “harder” one of the same TSS or less than what I;ve done over the last two days! I think I have the suggestions set to 45 minute max workouts, but still…

I will admit it IS useful just for not having to think too hard about what workout to do that day.

[Eric]

@emacdoug

“You have done less that two hard workouts in the last 7 days”.

@emacdoug if I recall, I got the same message during the Tour. I was like…WTF?! LOL

[sc235813]

So glad I found this 1 YO thread. Was just about to post a similar complaint (1 year later, I might add). I do all my workouts at full intensity, and this past week that included Oberjoch (57 TSS, 0.79 IF), Tasmania Richmond (66, 0.77), No Place Like Home (32, 0.71) + others and I got that stupid "you have done less than two hard workouts… " message suggesting SUF Idol (42, 0.92). The recommended rides feature is utterly useless and also creates rider resent. I am turning it off.

[emacdoug]

You can also make the recommendations go away by adding workouts or a training plan to your calendar. Then the app thinks you already have a plan and so won’t give you recommendations.

[sc235813]

Yes, the better way for sure.