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Only one time is needed. And only a fraction of the climb up Mt Sufferlandria! Even Sir @michael.cotty aka āHe Who Never Sitsā stopped partway up that climb.
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About 71 times up the volcano. (8,848/126 both in meters)
You can shorten it to about 9 if you use Alpe Du Zwift. (8,848/1,036 both in meters)
Either way sounds atrocious.
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To each his own. Zwift is great for people that love cartoons and not real world cycling. Rouvy is awesome for the incredible courses you can ride when you are stuck indoors or want to ride in other place with spectacular views to get immersed in. Kinomap is fun too. Not as advanced as Rouvy but hiking courses you can do with your bike as well as lots of mountain bike and gravel rides. Of course with these apps you have to have at least moderate amount of computer skills and can afford a good wifi connection and good computer or tablets.
Have fun in your cartoon world but your āadviceā is kinda lame.
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Thing is that Zwift is advertised as a āgameā. Rouvy and several others are advertised as āreal world rides you can do indoorsā. Massive difference. I ride Zwift because I can ride with others in a weird sense of the word, without biting major dirt. Iāve had issues with every outdoor group ride that Iāve had in the last three months. The last group ride ended up with me in the rocks after sliding off the rear wheel of the rider to my left. Not fun and that did more damage to me than the bike. So, if I want ride simulations, Iāll ride SYSTM. If I want to ride in a group, Zwift. I donāt have time to beta test somebodyās race product and I donāt want to ride iffy road videos.
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Well whatever you ride indoors I would just advise you to keep doing it even in the summer when you can get outside. Both together. Iāll spin out for an hour or so at 2 or 3 a.m. not riding hard just keeping my legs going. Itās helped tremendously with my endurance as well as being a bit fun too if youāre a true endurance athlete. I love group rides donāt get me wrong but I usually ride them with my ebike now so I donāt have to stay so close to anyoneās wheel letās face it thereās a lot of idiots out there that donāt know how to handle in a group and even if there werenāt stuff happens. But you can always bridge your Gap without suffering and still have a great ride no matter what kind of pace anyone wants to dictate up front. You can have a great group ride and train exactly at the pace you want and still leave big enough gaps on the back, to be safe.
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The group I ride with has an average ride age of 20 years. Itās not the group itās the fact we are forced, for safety, to ride on a system that was poorly designed. Where I went down at has no margin for error on a hairpin turn. BTW, this is for two way traffic as well. Itās time to go back and rebuild some of the turns to improve safety.
I will confess, I have never tried Zwift because it isnāt compatible with my kit, and I was gutted when I found out because I was really looking forward to it. But forced to find an alternative, I found Rouvy - and now have ZERO desire to try Zwift. I donāt get why people choose minecraft graphics over actual footage, not to mention the issues you say you had have never been issues for me. I use Rouvy almost always offline and it does exactly what it says it does (apart from one or two routes which donāt work so well - Mountain Circuit Isle of Man being one culprit). Sure, we all make a decision. However for anybody reading the above post, please consider Rouvy as I and many others find it incredible.
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For me, Zwift (also IndieVelo, MyWhoosh, etc) and Rouvy (also Tacx TDA, BigRingVR, Elite MyETraining) scratch different itches. Likewise any of those and Systm/Sufferfest.
Itās also difficult to know the pros and cons without trying them, so I kinda get why you may struggle to understand how Zwift may appeal to people. As long as you have something you enjoy though, itās all good, thereās no absolute scale - just what works for different folk.
Curious about the setup working with Rouvy but not Zwift, can I ask what yours is ?
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My android at the time was an old version which Zwift outgrew. By now I am up to speed but already in love with Rouvy and donāt want to sub to two apps.
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I used Zwift in the past and have an account but havenāt paid the subscription in a few years. I still get 20-25km for free each monthā¦enough to check out new routes and satiate any desire to ride in the cartoon world.
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YAY! The thing I like about Zwift is it has been going a long time, and it has the brilliant training plans. These training plans are amazing and I notice them working on my outdoor road rides. I love the fact that we have the tours on Zwift/Watopia and that everybody is so social and its a lovely social atmosphere, I donāt chat because I am there to ride, but it is nice to know others are present and i donāt feel alone :). Both the rider and the scenery match, it is a slightly cartoony character on a matching background where as, Rouvy has a real background but the character riding the bike is a bit strange. I understand that some of us like to have a realistic background on rides, my answer to that is you see that every time you go outside. Zwift is a warm but productive environment, I am running Zwift through Starlink and I have no trouble at all. I bring this up because I live in the middle of nowhere and if I can run Zwift here through satellite internet than perhaps it doesnāt speak well for the broadband suppliers in this country.
For meā¦ Zwift has my vote every time 
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