I must admit that I am a little bit disappointed. Not about the replacement of one of the best workout videos but about finding out that the highly anticipated “Phil wins the Tour” is just one video in the library. I really was under the impression, we will get another “Week with Phil” but this time in France and accompanied by @michael.cotty .
I understand, it’s a good idea to make videos that are leaning towards the style of “G.O.A.T.” or “Getting Away With It” to avoid licensing issues in the future.
But all the effort Phil and Emily and Mike had with with travel and riding really should have counted for more than just one single video.
So you feel that all of the workouts/rides within the SYSTM library should be “A Week With” or “On Location”?
Some feedback on the new Thin Air. In short, not as good as the original but not a bad video. There were points where the footage corresponded very well with the effort and I found myself quite immersed, but others where it didn’t at all, e.g. you are doing surges whilst you watch panned out footage a the peleton riding sedately, then other times you’re riding steady, whilst it’s kicking off in screen. At these points it’s more like watching a bike race whilst you workout, but without commentary, so it’s not really engaging or entertaining. Some better cutting of the footage that’s already in the workout could match up footage and effort nicely.
I am not sure I picked up on much of a storyline, other than they’re riding up an effing big hill and so are you. Which is fine, and at points you feel quite immersed in the race, but it’s not quite as motivating as the old one.
I’d happily do it again though, it wasn’t dull, and I think with some polishing, could be improved.
Especially now that there is no “Final Act” in the closing minutes to motivate and push you through to the end.
What you are saying here is that the product is not as good as the one that I signed up for in February when I renewed. I added in some ROUVY rides on the weekend towards the end of the indoor season because I ran out of longer rides and didn’t want to redo rides that I did a couple of months prior. Since all feel the product isn’t as good as it was how about generating some good will by either a price cut or some other way of giving you customers value? I’m not sure if I will sign back up in February or choose another option but Wahoo needs to be kinder to its customers. There are now several videos that I won’t do based on feedback from forum members. That makes the product less valuable to me.
Yeh, forgot to mention that. It just sort of ends at a random point on the climb. Then the footage of the finish is used in the cool down. That was odd.
A very dark place. Just done another of the remasters. Again it was actually pretty good. I quite like the new story line, although do miss chasing cobbles Cancellara. The footage does match the effort pretty well though, and the text is good and liked the featuring of the bleeding eyes. The cadence targets are a bit odd at points though. The first interval is now at 100 rpm throughout, which I think is a change? Most oddly though it asks you to stand for about a minute whilst holding 100 rpm. No chance.
Also did the OL There is No Try replacement a couple of weeks ago. It’s fine, but not a replacement for a SUF video and I hope this gets sorted at some point. I say this as someone who likes OL workouts and am pleased to have them in the SYSTM library to add variation, but they don’t lend themselves to be as repeatable as many have said, and whilst I like them as an addition to the library not a replacement, and if I had the pick one genre to keep, it would be SUF every time.
No, I don’t.
The re-remastered version of Power Station is now available and has hills on all the Walls.
https://systm.wahoofitness.com/content-details/1tViNkXwK
Enjoy ![]()
@Rupert Trivia time. Without looking, how many Walls are in Power Station
Oh, and is that Joao Almeida in the black UAE jersey in the screen shot?
I’m looking forward to doing this re-remastered Power Station!….but it may have to wait as I did G.O.A.T this afternoon after work.
For me, this was the video that broke the camels back, so to speak. I am traveling for a few weeks. When I return I will give this a try. This will likely determine if I renew next month or not.
My hopes are high, but my expectation is very low.
That is more like it (re remastered Power Station). The first couple of walls the cadence targets and the actual (cadence) footage on screen are miles off (and the first wall text ends with a ‘thats not so bad’ style text - but it’s before the end of the wall).
Overall night and day from the first remaster. Thank you.
we are back to 11 walls unless I’ve missed something in the latest version ![]()
@Rupert Correct! Quick question. Why is the last wall now descending instead of ascending?
It will make sense when you ride it but based on the footage we have used we felt it made more sense. Open to feedback though once it has had a few rides.
Gotcha. Thank you Rupert.
The only thing that made sense on the last interval is that it is still harder than !**k and if you think for one minute that I can even think about standing at all in that last interval….well sir, you’re sicker than GvA! Oy
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I almost always consider the direction to stand as optional. Lol
Ditto. But only on the higher cadence stand cues.

