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Would it be possible for cadence builds/drills to show the interval graph in terms of cadence targets instead of power targets? We can see the graph after the fact in the summary but since the focus for the workout has little to do with the power targets and being able to see the cadence targets and how close we have and are hitting the targets instead of for power would be awesome
When youāre in a workout, click the gear (top right), click Display, and then change the āWorkout Graph Displaysā setting from āPower with Targetā to āCadenceā.
Caveat: Iāve seen the setting and it appears to show just what youāre asking for, but Iāve never used it in a live workout. Please let us know if it does what you want.
I know this has been discussed in other threads, but Iād like to see some workouts made more difficult again. I did Attacker today, one I remember being properly hard last time. This time, it was a breeze. All the motivational talk was pointless, I wasnāt under any stress. From Strava, it is clear why. Last time training load was 71, Intensity was 90. This time it was 59 and 82. I canāt believe this is giving me close to the benefit that I saw previously. I feel I will make no gains over winter this year.
Well, I tried to do FF 4 weeks ago, but all my BT dropped in the 20 min section. I did HM a few days later, and as this tends to over-estimate both FTP and MAP (being a Persuiter), my numbers really shouldnāt be a problem given that it is a FTP and MAP session. Iāve found some sessions (Team Scream as an example) really tough since that HM. But other sessions are way too easy.
Id love to see the workout profile a bit larger. Perhaps have a āWorkout Profile Sizeā selector like you do for Font Size. On my gigantic old Ipad, FTP is about 1/8th inch tall on some workouts.
I see no change in Attacker either tbh.
If youāre looking at the training load in Strava make sure that your FTP at the the time of the workout is set correctly since itās a measure relative to a prevailing setting.
As a newbie, Iād say this app is great. It provides guidance on training plans based on personal goals using our 4DP results. How about adding a workday feature into the calendar/schedule. Iām guessing most of us work during the week so adjusting our workouts vs. our work hours would be nice.
Also noticed, in my case at least, that my HRM keeps dropping and there isnāt a way to reactivate it. Hurrumph.
A choice of increasing intensity to already scheduled workouts. Something like adding a code to up the power requirement algorithm, i.e.
And not that Iāve done any yet, but more of the āOn Locationā vids would be awesome. Iām very much scenery cyclist, always looking around at the views.
The intensity of workouts can all be increased or decreased at will. Thereās a Changing Workout Intensity vid in the Getting Started channel of the App Library.
Or, you could also access them here:
Edit: for sensor connection issues like your HRM you might wanna search the forums for similar issues or consider submitting a ticket to the minions for support
I always change my FTP on Strava after FF/HM. And I only highlighted those numbers because the workout felt too easy. If I donāt feel like I am suffering, I donāt see how I am getting benefit.
Huh, I donāt know what to say then. Iāve compared every power change in SUF and System and they are identical for my current 4DP profile. Perhaps the way the workout is using the relative 4DP metrics is giving a change in yours and not mine.
I hadnāt seen the erroneous increase effort prompt but will look out for it (if Iām not staring at my stem).
New feature request 1 - Filter incomplete workouts:
When going through the library of workouts, I would like to be able to see which workouts I have not completed yet, e.g. to see what other sufferfest sessions I have to explore . Applies to both Android and Windows app.
New feature request 2 - Allow to record HR for Strength or Yoga (nice to have):
I do record HR when exercising but this is not possible in SYSTM app for Strength and Yoga apps. It would be nice if I could pair HR sensor just like for indoor cycling sessions and then it would sync to Strava and others.
Iām really enjoying Systm so āChapeauā and all that!
My only comment is that Iām doing a road plan with strength and yoga and I selected the low volume option. Even so, I really donāt get any days off even on rest weeks. The issue is I like to do other things as well as Systm and, not being a spring chicken anymore, I worry that Iāll end up doing too much and get injured which has been the case before. Iād quite like to start doing a bit of Zwift racing for instance and I also really like to run a couple of times a week (I have a separate running plan for that from another provider) and Iād actually like to do some of the Systm Pro/Location rides but theyāve not come up on my plan yet so I donāt feel like I have time to do them within the confines of my plan soā¦ I suppose what Iām saying is Iād like the structure of a plan but Iād like one with a bit of flexibility built in or, one that will adapt to other activities so I can monitor my overall training load or just one where low volume isā¦well, lower.
Itās at 7min 16 secs. Although looking at my last Attacker power profile that didnāt have an increase either. Iāve added it to the nit-picks and typos thread.
So do we all. Just do them! Move or skip the SYSTM workouts as needed. Iād try to avoid more than two days of very intense work in row (most of the time) and remember to give yourself rest weeks with few or no intense days every 3rd or 4th week.
SYSTM plans are a guide to getting stronger, but they are necessarily generic in order to serve a large, international group of users. Remember: you set the rules! Like in cooking, feel free to substitute ingredients and season to taste.
My comment was more of a want rather than a need. I know I can move stuff around but I like structure so I like to follow the plan as closely as I can otherwise, I kind of donāt see the point; I donāt really want to āwing itā. Iād like just a bit of flexibility built in, say, some days it just says, 'Cycle for an hour mostly in Zone 3" or āGo for a runā that way I could still feel like Iām on track but do some other things. My big wish is for the plan to accommodate other activities intelligently but I feel like thatās a ways off, still got my fingers crossed for the run/cycle plan though.
If youāre happy with the way things are, thatās fine though, not everyoneās wish lists are the same.
