Hey all, my new Zwift Ride is arriving tomorrow. My understanding is that the KICKR core that’s included will work fine in ERG mode, but the virtual shifting with the Zwift Cog won’t work in level mode with anything except Zwift right now. 99% of the time I’m in ERG mode, but I’m planning on doing a Half Monty soon and I’m not sure how to handle the HR target section in level mode.
Are there any plans to bring virtual shifting support to systm? Or is it possible to keep level mode on and manually adjust the resistance somehow through the systm UI even though there’s no power target?
@Brian_Kraemer Yes - you would need to use level mode in the workout player. You may want to do a practice ride before your fitness test to get acclimated with how it works.
You can also do the test in Zwift by using the browser extension tool but then you would need to manually update your numbers in SYSTM.
I’m not sure this will work Sir @JSampson. Level mode in SYSTM requires you to change gears but you won’t be able to change gears using the ZWIFT Ride controllers in SYSTM.
@Glen.Coutts You can also change levels via the devices tab in the workout player. That is what I was referencing - not the Zwift Click. Apologies if that wasn’t clear.
Yea you can change levels but I don’t think you’ll be able to find the “gear” that works in Half Monty cuz there won’t be any gears. I suppose the only way to know is to try once the Zwift Ride is hooked up. I’m just not holding out a lot of hope, personally and don’t want to mislead the OP that it’ll work. The public facing materials are clear that the only app that the Zwift Ride virtual gears will work in is Zwift.
@Glen.Coutts Go back and read the OPs post - he states “ Or is it possible to keep level mode on and manually adjust the resistance somehow through the systm UI even though there’s no power target?”
I am answering that question. Not sure where the confusion comes from about the Click.
@Glen.Coutts Yeah - it won’t be perfect as he won’t have gears but he will have the ability to adjust levels and also vary cadence. Hopefully we will see more integration between Wahoo and Zwift on workouts to make the process easier for cyclists using the cog and click.
During the winter when my bike stays on the trainer, I’m too lazy to charge my DI2 so can’t shift. I often resort to adjusting the grade in Level mode when I don’t want to/can’t ride in ERG mode. You don’t get the fine adjustments you could get from your 20-odd gears, but I can usually find something close to the power and cadence targets I need; I imagine it would be similar with a Zwift Cog.
Sorry for reporting back later than I’d mentioned, but I did the half Monty today with 0 issues. Obviously I couldn’t use the virtual gearing but adjusting the level and my cadence worked just fine!
What if you use a combination of zwift on AppleTV and SYSTEM X on a windows computer? Almost like described her, but “opposite”: Wahoo Systm with Zwift - #10 by knut
On the AppleTV run Zwift, with bluetooth, chose a flat route. Do virtual gearing in zwift. Run SYSTM on the windows laptop with an ANT USB dongle (from Garmin btw). Then pair via ANT with “Power” and not controllable. Now zwift controls the resistanse, but SYSTM will “follow”. Use virtual gearing. Do the full frontal/half monty in SYSTEM X.
I haven’t tried this myself, but hopefully it will work. Please let me know if anyone had any success
Not related to the direct topic, but I’d be curious to hear your thoughts on the Zwift Ride and using it with SYSTM (maybe even indieVelo if you use that app at all?) considering getting one. It’s that or a Kickr Bike. The Zwift Ride with a new trainer is nicer on my wallet!
There’s a significant limitation using a Zwift ride on a different platform. Virtual shifting only works in Zwift. So, while you can use it in ERG mode for workouts, it’s a pretty poor experience if you want to do anything but ERG mode. In SYSTM you can somewhat account for this by changing the “level” you’re riding with, but in IndieVelo you’d effectively be using a single speed bike. Not ideal for climbing, descending or most sprinting scenarios.
I haven’t tried it, but considering it’s basically a highly adjustable bike frame, I’d imagine it’s exactly like riding a normal bike (as long as your height is within its size recommendations).
On the AppleTV run Zwift, with bluetooth, chose a flat route. Do virtual gearing in zwift. Run SYSTM on the windows laptop with an ANT USB dongle (from Garmin btw). Then pair via ANT with “Power” and not controllable. Now zwift controls the resistanse, but SYSTM will “follow”. Use virtual gearing.
I have purchased a Zwift cog and tried my theory in practice. I would like to confirm my hack. It is possible to do it like that. I also discovered that you don’t have to start a real ride (on a flat course) as long as it is paired with Zwift. However, you only get a visual indication of the gear if you actually start a ride. You can feel the gear changes even without the visual. Next time I do Full Frontal, I will do this.
Did you find your cadence low while in level mode?
When I do workouts in ERG mode, cadence is fine and I can hit any number they put as a target.
But when I switch to level mode 1) I have to stay in level 1 becuase it’s super hard at any other level 2) my cadence doesn’t too 80rpm??? I’m steadily around 75-80.
Edit 2: ignore this. I forgot that you’ve got the Zwift Ride
Have you tried level 0? Also, did you mention what type of trainer you use and whether you’re running the most recent firmware for it or done a spin down if needed?
Edit: also how many speeds, what rings and cassette range?
