I was wondering what other apps are others using for more in-depth analysis? Currently, I subscribe to Xert for my additional analysis. I like the adaptive training information. Are there better apps for analysis out there? My workouts are coming almost exclusively thru SYSTM but occasionally I use Wahoo Fitness or Xert.
Hiā¦ i use trainingpeaks desktop software (WKO5). Truthfully, itās a bit overkill for me and what I do but if i need something, I know itās in there.
You might be able to score a Holiday special for 30% off. Itās a one time purchase (not a subscription) with updates for around $150.
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I use GoldenCheetah. Itās OpenSource and available for all major platforms. At first it might be a bit difficult to understand but there are lots of tutorials, videos, ā¦
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If all your data is going to strava or garmin, you can link to intervals.icu, free and useful
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Since I already share data to Strava, Iāll probably start there. I think I will also take a peak at the other suggestions (Training Peaks, Golden Cheetah). Iāve got a lot of time on my hands and enjoy looking at numbers. In my professional life, I was a financial guy (Controller, CFO).
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Strive.ai is another option. It adds another level to Strava data, and there is a free or paid version.
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Thanks for this suggestion. I hadnāt heard of Intervals.icu, and itās awesome!
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My pleasure, it bugs me a little at the moment, there are a lot of smaller operations out there like intervals, trainerday, join e.tc, and you could even include xert in this lists, that have good/interesting products, but donāt make the cycling mainstream news channels, as talking about them doesnāt generate the clicks that the already popular sites do ā¦
ā¦ sorry, rant over ā¦ enjoy
I went ahead and downloaded this one as well. I have quick a bit of overlap between Strive.ai, intervals.icu and Xert. I just need to figure out which I prefer. Xert has the advantage of its own workout library although it comes at a cost.
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I am now utilizing intervals.icu. I was wondering if you could give me any insight on the W value. Not sure I totally understand it. I updated my value in settings, but donāt see where it changed anything in the workout detail.
Sorry, I donāt know my W value, so havenāt filled it in (which is the best way), intervals has a good forum so you would be best ask somebody in there
Thanks. I searched the forum and found where you can get the value to enter in settings. If youāre interested, you can get an estimated value from the power page. I entered it under settings, but it didnāt really appear to update any of the workout data.
I have posted the question on the forum so maybe Iāll get an answer.
Do we have a forecast on when Systm may be upgraded with analytics capabilities? When Systm was released, I seem to remember a promise of analytics capabilities coming to the app 'later in 2021".
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I read the same thing. Iām hoping itās coming soon.
Has anyone ever had an issue with a workout updating to strive.ai? The workout is showing in SYSTM, Strava and intervals.icu, but not strive.ai. I have tried reloading to Strava, but nothing changed.
Late to this thread but chiming in - Iāve been building/using an MCP server that lets ChatGPT (or Claude Desktop) read training data directly.
Pulls from Wahoo (KICKR + ELEMNT activities, power zones, workout summaries with TSS/NP/IF), plus Strava, Garmin, Oura, WHOOP, Hevy.
The thing it solved for me: actually being able to ask āwhy did todayās threshold feel brutalā and get a real answer pulling the actual interval, last nightās sleep, recent CTL - instead of the generic ChatGPT response you get from pasting screenshots.
Setup is 2min for ChatGPT (Dev Mode) or Claude.
Walkthrough: athletedata.health/mcp/setup/chatgpt
Curious if others here have been doing something similar with their Wahoo data - the conversation layer has been the missing piece for me on top of the dashboards.
Cross-post from thread replying to @daniel-athletedata - may be of interest here.
I enjoyed SYSTM but wanted more free ride options so I moved to FulGaz and then Rouvy. I built a portfolio app that imports from Strava but uses GPS data for the mapping so SYSTM workouts wonāt work. It does work with outdoor rides but I donāt use any sensors like power meter, cadence, or GPS bike computer, only HR and the Strava app.
Anyway to answer your question I do not get any thing more from the outdoor rides as there is less data, not more, but it does of course fill in gaps in the overall data.
The main benefit Iāve found is adding context, skills (data interpretation, coaching), and tools with AI - so an AI coach that understand me and adapts. Iām not training for events but like to keep fit and be competitive on Rouvy challenge rides (top 10-20 in my age group). I like flexibility. So rather than a rigid training program I can just set a goal like āride undulating classics route comfortably at 4W/kgā and the AI coach builds and continuously adapts a program as it learns my patterns (for example I like doing a big climb on weekends). It can generate workouts (.zwo) for specific/favorite routes with commentary, that I just upload to Rouvy.
The AI coach does draw some lines that are āmust doā to ensure tracking toward goal - I have the ATL,CTL,TSS, CP, W` metrics so easy to see, track and report on. It also uses these metrics and my feedback after rides (feeling, RPE) to when making suggestions - take it easier, type of ride to do today etc.
Overall what I like the most is the flexibility and that it understands me, my preferences, and adapts.
I also have an MCP server, main benefit with that is free-form chat/reporting that is not in the app UI. Hereās an example using Claude Desktop
Humorous feedback from the AI is fun: āThe model is very good at telling you when youāre sandbagging the perception score, and this week it would gently raise an eyebrow at āGOOD, RPE 6ā on a max-effort classification.ā
As I said itās a portfolio app that lets me learn/apply AI to my own data, not a commercial SaaS, too many cycling apps in the space already and key established main players in a small market: https://routebook.app