Joyride rocks. It is straight to the point and the second ascending set of MAP intervals is a killer. I thought I wouldn’t be able to get through it. This was on the list for a Triple mid week short suffering of Idol, Long Scream (at 85%) and then Joyride.
In the end I did DAYT as I had a few more mins to train Tuesday, but didn’t manage Wednesdays session due to kids being sick, but managed to squeeze in Joyride on Thursday.
It is awesome, the most perfect amount of suffering. Enough to question being able to finish, especially in the second set, but the last three sets reduced just enough to make it through.
All the talk on here seems to be around the Nine Hammers, Violator etc. Joyride doesn’t get much coverage, but I think it is awesome. So straight to the point. Awesome corny story line too. @Francois-Wahoo was this one of yours? Who did the voice over for the team car driver? So funny.
Joyride is definitely in my top 5 Suff videos. Workouts that make you laugh AND cry are why I picked Suff over all the other alternatives. I hope Dylan can bring his crazy spirit back to Suff some day.
Did Joyride for the first time this morning. FUUUUUUUUU… That’s just plain horrible and nasty and excruciating. Love it.
A question: does the Wahoo system take age into account when planning the training programs/setting intensity? As a genuine MAMIL I feel MAP training like Joyride is easier if you’re a young 'un and as I get older I feel stuff like this gets disproportionately harder. That’s my excuse anyway
Also, who’s the Segafredo rider who are riding with?
@gwydion There are several threads in the forums on the subject of age and the basics are that it is tough to generalize plans within a specific age group and the coaches suggest switching to 2:1 versus 3:1 for your work to recovery ratios.
Your 4DP should have you at your correct numbers for the workout so it should be achievable at any age. Sleep, stress, nutrition are also factors that can affect performance too.
Thanks! I will definitely be moving from 3:1 to 2:1. Just wondering if there’s any discussion on the general adage that your speed/strength decreases with age, but your stamina increases. Just thinking - completely unscientifically - about long distance runners generally being older, sprinters younger. And therefore the expected 4DP proportions, as it were, would change with age.
@gwydion Not sure about that but muscle definitely does decrease with age unless you continue to strength train. I am 55 and try to hit weight work at least 2 days a week. I don’t lift what I did in my early 20s but I also don’t try to as that doesn’t really work with my cycling goals.
+1 for 2:1 - whilst @JSampson has stated, the plans don’t take into account age, I have found the numbers for the 4DP metrics provide the right amount of horrible, nasty and excruciating pain. @Francois-Wahoo is going to have to use it on one of his upcoming masterpieces.
At 54, they are hard but doable. They changed the 4DP settings a while ago. The old Sufferfest were a little harder I think and the clever guys crunched the numbers on the sessions with completed sessions etc and made some tweeks. It is better to finish a session than bail half way being the rationale.
I would trust in the numbers. They seem to work for me and I’m a OMAMIL. (Older Middle Aged Man in Lycra).